Cheney in Baghdad Says Iraq Security ‘Phenomenal’ as Bombs Kill 52

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A Female Suicider Explodes Bomb in a Crowd of Mostly Women Pilgrims
Guest blogged by Jon Ponder, Pensito Review.

The Worst Vice President Ever goes to Baghdad and says:

“I was last in Baghdad 10 months ago, and I can sense, as a result of the progress that’s been made since then, that there have been some phenomenal changes, in terms of the overall situation, both with respect to the security situation, where Iraqi and American forces have done some very good work, as well as with respect to political developments here in Iraq.”
Meanwhile:

At sunset Monday, however, a female suicide bomber killed at least 40 people* and injured more than 50 when she blew herself up in a crowded pedestrian area near a Shiite Muslim shrine in the southern holy city of Karbala, according to government and hospital officials. Among the victims were several Iranian pilgrims who’d come to worship at the Imam Hussein shrine, one of Islam’s most sacred sites…
The majority of casualties in the Karbala suicide bombing were female pilgrims who’d gathered at refreshment stands about a half-mile from the shrine, said Saleem Kadhim, a spokesman for the Husseini Hospital, which received 40 dead and 56 injured from the blast.

Medics from nearby towns were called in to help the overflowing hospital, and the government imposed an open-ended citywide curfew on Karbala.

“I was near the bus station when I saw a woman who was pushing others and then, a few seconds later, I saw a flame in the sky,” said Jassim Hussein, 32, who helped carry victims from the scene. “I blame the Baathists and members of the old regime. As you know, Karbala is a target for so many enemies, especially those against the Shiites. And I also blame the security forces because we don’t have checkpoints in this area.”

…In other violence Monday, a car bomb exploded at a busy intersection in the Baghdad neighborhood of Karrada, wounding eight people. Three separate roadside bombs in the capital also left casualties: One policeman was killed and one wounded when their patrol was targeted near a teachers’ training institute in Mansour; three Iraqi civilians died at a busy intersection near the Shaab Stadium in Zayuna; and one civilian was injured near the landmark Mr. Milk grocery store in Mansour.

And:

And the U.S. military announced the deaths of two soldiers who were killed Monday when their Humvee struck a roadside bomb north of Baghdad, bringing the number of American troop deaths to at least 3,990 since the war began.
The media meme on Cheney’s trip is that it was a “surprise,” but when word of his trip to the Middle East came out last week, who didn’t think he would detour to Iraq? The bombings were probably all planned then.

Maybe he was there to crack the heads of Prime Minister Nouri al Malki and his government, but the trip comes off like one big photo op to give Cheney a platform for spouting administration talking points on the occupation: U.S. forces would “not quit before the job is done,” he said, without a trace of irony. And “[it] would be a mistake now to be so eager to draw down the force that we risk putting the outcome in jeopardy. And I don’t think we’ll do that.”

*Update: An Iraqi health official says the death toll in Monday’s bombing in Karbala near the shrine of Imam Hussein has risen to 52.

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25 Comments

  1. Mark Logan,

    The “kind of website” we are running has no room for your lack of maturity.

    Once again, a post devoted entirely to a specious and malicious personal attack was deleted. If you would like to repost your comments without the personal attack then you are welcome to do so – if you are capable of doing so.

    Freedom of speech is limited in many cases. On this site, any opinion about the issues or about public figures is welcome. ‘Flame wars’ and personal attacks are not.

    If you continue to make juvenile personal attacks you will lose your right to post on this website permanently.

    Anything to offer to the discussion?

    Anything at all?

  2. Nice. Real nice. So much for freedom of speech. I’m glad you deleted my post. Now I know for sure what kind of website you are really running.

    See you soon.
    -Mark

  3. The current recession is directly tied to Iraq Occupation spending according to a Nobel Prize-winning economist:

    “The present economic mess is very much related to the Iraq war,” says Joseph Stiglitz, the Nobel Prize-winning economist. “It was at least partially responsible for soaring oil prices. …Moreover, money spent on Iraq did not stimulate the economy as much as the same dollars spent at home would have done. To cover up these weaknesses in the American economy, the Fed let forth a flood of liquidity; that, together with lax regulations, led to a housing bubble and a consumption boom.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/23/opinion/23kristof.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

  4. How’s your favorite little war going now Mark & Chubby? How’s that surge workin’ for ya?:

    Third Day Of Fighting Takes Over Iraq

    Tens Of Thousands Of Shiites Protest… Green Zone Hit Repeatedly… Crucial Cease-Fire In Jeopardy… Iraqi Prime Minister: We’ll Fight To “The End”

    Intense fighting between Iraqi Shiite militiamen and US And Iraqi forces has been raging in Iraq over the past three days. The fighting threatens to end a Mahdi Army cease-fire that is credited for many security gains in Iraq. Below are a couple reports on the violence and discontent throughout the country:

    AP: Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki Says He’ll Pursue Fight To “The End”

    Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki is promising to pursue his fight against Shiite militias in Basra to “the end.”

    Al-Maliki made his pledge to Basra area tribal leaders Thursday as military operations against the militias continued for a fourth day despite stiff resistance.

    AP: Green Zone Hit For Fourth Day This Week:

    Shiite militants are hammering the U.S.-protected Green Zone with rockets and mortars for the fourth day this week.

    Thick, black smoke is billowing from inside the heavily fortified home to the U.S. Embassy and Iraqi government.

    AP: Tens Of Thousands Of Shiites Protest:
    Tens of thousands of Shiites took to Baghdad’s streets to protest the government crackdown on militias in Basra as heavy fighting between Iraqi security forces and gunmen erupted for a third day in the southern oil port and the capital.

    Iraqi officials reported 17 more people killed in overnight clashes in Baghdad’s main Shiite district of Sadr City and raised the number of deaths from fighting in the southern city of Hillah to at least 60.

    Mounting anger focused on Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, a Shiite who is personally overseeing an operation against Shiite militias dominated by followers of radical cleric Muqtada al-Sadr amid a violent power struggle in Basra, Iraq’s southern oil hub near the Iranian border.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/27/third-day-of-fighting-tak_n_93675.html

  5. Mark Logan,

    I coined the phrase “digitally lobotomized” in reference to the political situation. Finding some obscure use of the phrase that nobody had every heard of in a totally unrelated area of discussion is irrelevant. I had never heard of that usage until now and neither had you or anyone else in this context. I made the phrase up myself as a way to describe the then 30%ers, now 19%ers, but I certainly never claimed to have been the first user of the English language to put those two words next to each other in a sentence. If you think I did, then you are sadly confused… or should I say… “obfuscating”.

    As far as using the word “obfuscate” instead of calling me a liar, you can go fornicate yourself (I mean that as respectfully as possible, of course).

    Why is it that every discussion with Bushies winds up down a trail of minutiae away from any relevant topic?

    Why is it so difficult for you to talk issues?

    I guess I would sidetrack every conversation if I were you to as any attempt to actually defend this Administration, the NeoCon movement or the GOP that has sworn mindless, brown-shirt, lockstep subservience to them is doomed to failure from the outset.

    Do you have any opinions about any relevant topics or issues you would care to redirect your focus to or would you rather continue spending valuable minutes of your life searching the world wide web for uses of obscure phrases in vain attempts to discredit me?

    If all you can do is attack the messenger, then you are all but surrendering the verdict of the discussion.

  6. “The verdict is in. Modern day “Liberalism” is FASCISM.”

    In FAUXNews mainlining Chubby dreamland.

    Stop wasting my time.

  7. Mikael,
    In post #15 above you stated: “Not ironic at all. That is a phrase I coined myself to describe the brain dead Americans who get all their news from television yet are completely unaware how much of it is spoon-fed pablum intended to mislead them.”

    I did read that post (or comment in this case) and also the article you included it in three days later. Your first use of that phrase was posted to this website on September 29, 2007. If you coined the phrase, then how do you explain this, posted to the Web by Jacob Levyon July 7, 2000; 5:00:50 PM in reference to music media formats, of all things:

    http://static.userland.com/userLandDiscussArchive/msg018383.html

    Feel free to obfuscate the point at will, my work is done.

    -Mark

  8. Qoute the ballroom dancer:

    “Popular doesn’t always mean accurate.”

    That sure is strange coming from Mr.81%er.
    Citing cooked numbers in rigged polling is OK for a litmus but hard sales numbers in books sold that people want to read is irrelevant. That’s fascist integrity for you.
    It’s a historically accurate book Mikael. The footnotes and bibliography is overwhelming.
    It’s an academic masterpiece and liberals are afraid to read it.
    You can’t debunk it Mikael. The verdict is in. Modern day “Liberalism” is FASCISM.

  9. Chubby,

    Popular doesn’t always mean accurate. Richard Nixon won in a landslide and left office in shame very soon afterwards. Rush Limbaugh used to be popular and he is a pathetic, lying sack of drug-addled shit. All the success of that book means is that a huge number of Americans are as brainwashed by doublespeak as you are. “Liberal Fascism” is as oxymoronic and nonsensical as “Islamo-Fascist”.

    I am a casual student of history, I don’t pretend to have all the answers, unlike you who is hard-wired to propaganda but claims to be omniscient.

    Impeachment may not happen, in fact, probably won’t happen, but I will live with the knowledge that I did everything I could to protect the Constitution of the United States from domestic enemies to it: Cheney, Bush, etc. This is a battle being fought on principle. Impeachment should happen. Whether it does or not is secondary to acting in integrity according to what we know to be most important for the nation and the future.

    Ann Coulter is popular in some circles and she is an idiot.

    Britany Spears is popular. Professional wrestling is popular. Murdering people with handguns is popular in America. Since when does popularity have anything to do with what is true or what is right?

    “I am lying” ~ Chubby Huggs (and this is supposed to be a surprise?)

    I find it hilarious that you would think that you writing me off would affect me in the least. From what I have heard from your entries, I would be ashamed if you thought anything good of me… I would start wondering if I was on the right path? Knowing what I know about your political perspective I know I am on the right path as long as you disagree with everything I say and do.

  10. Mikael, I had imagined that you were a student of history. No I didn’t, I’m lying.
    “Liberal Fascism” is the NUMBER ONE selling history book in the English speaking world right now. It’s number FIVE on the NY Times best seller list for non-fiction at this very moment. It explains a lot, it explains this site.
    It’s the book you’ll never read because you’d realize that for almost 49 years you’ve wasted your life in promoting fascism.
    I do hope you read it some day, but that is a false hope, because when something is as hopeless as this quixotic impeachment quest, there is no hope for you.

  11. Mark Logan,

    In EVERY case where an UNWELCOME invading force attempts an ongoing occupation it does not turn out well. EVERY case. Each example you give is completely different than the current case of U.S. invading and occupying Iraq. It will not turn out well and can not turn out well until the Iraqi people are given back their sovereignty, i.e. we get the hell out and let them sort it out for themselves as the vast majority of Iraqis want us to do.

    Once again, you are attempting to equate the utter brilliance of the Marshall Plan – one of the crowning achievements in the history of American diplomacy – with the Rumsfeld muck-up and f**k-up of an invasion with absolutely NO plan of what to do once “Mission Accomplished” has passed. You cannot pretend to believe that there is even a remote parallel between the two situations. Are you really trying to keep that nonsense on the table?

    “they show your true colors and serve to illustrate my civility”

    Oh really? And you have been 100% consistently civil? That hasn’t been my perspective of your participation here.

    Oh, and I did a quick Google search for “digitally lobotomized” and your site was third on the list. Ironic isn’t it?

    Not ironic at all. That is a phrase I coined myself to describe the brain dead Americans who get all their news from television yet are completely unaware how much of it is spoon-fed pablum intended to mislead them. Armstrong Williams gets busted after being paid over a hundred thousand dollars to push the horrible “No Child Left Behind” crap while pretending to be a journalist and hardly anybody even bats an eye. How many others have been and are being paid to spout more NeoCon vomit onto the airwaves without being caught? Anyone so foolish as to think that truth can be found by simply sitting down and watching the nightly news on any network or cable news channel and/or reading the local newspaper is completely out of touch with reality.

    The entry that led to the third listing on your Google search (interesting that you did the search but didn’t take the time to actually follow the link) was as follows:

    ~~~

    WASHINGTON — In an interview Friday afternoon, Rep. Darlene Hooley, D-Ore., described the frustration that caused her to introduce a resolution calling for “full cooperation” from the Bush administration with congressional investigations.

    Hooley, who unlike some other Democrats has not ruled out the possibility of impeachment, said she was prompted by Bush administration statements that it would invoke executive privilege for congressional oversight attempts and oppose subpoenas of White House officials for congressional investigations.”

    YES!!!

    Many of us are not yet digitally lobotomized and are ready to support you 100% in your honoring of your oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against these domestic enemies to it!

    Comment by Mikael — September 29, 2007 @ 10:35 am

    ~~~

    “In regard to the quoted poll, I did not ever say or infer that the numbers were not accurate, or too old, nor did I mock them. In fact I started that sentence with “just to give you a bit of context” in order to clarify my own position. The mention of the dates was again to provide context for the time frame in which the article was written, and to put in perspective how much has transpired (good or bad – your choice) between the time of writing and the present.”

    So you accept their accuracy? Good.

    “I merely pointed out the inaccuracies in these statements in order to illustrate your use of obfuscation and rhetoric to further your cause.”

    Duh-wuh-huh??!?!?!? So you accept the polls as accurate but you think I used the polls to obfuscate? Hmmmmm… More doublespeak, please!

    “And one last thing – In your comment to Chubby (#10), you quipped; “Any chance you might consider toning down your rhetoric just a bit?” What can I say? Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot.”

    Chubby gets back twofold what he gives. I toy with him. He is a minor irritant. I am just trying to inspire him to contribute something – ANYTHING – meaningful to the debate. It is a lost cause most likely, but if nothing else it helps to pass the time.

    I will discuss things with you because you are capable of discussion. With Chubby I just poke him with a stick now and then to listen to him growl. Maybe that is a bit cruel on my part, but they say that stimulating a child is the best way to inspire their ability to learn.

  12. Chubster,

    liberal-fascism?

    They are on opposite ends of the political spectrum. If you wanted to attack in a sane manner you might try to equate liberalism with anarchy, but that would make too much sense to come from you.

  13. Mikael, you said “It never turns out well.” The word “never” is defined as “Not ever; At no time.” Therefore your usage in that sentence equates to “It has ‘not ever, nor at any time’ turned out well.” I am simply pointing out that “invasions” have in the past worked out very well indeed. Unless you mean to say that Japan, Germany, Panama, Grenada, South Korea, Italy, and France are worse off now than they were under their former tyrannical dictatorships. Then it makes sense.

    “It always spurns nationalistic revolt and acts of revenge…” Again, your choice to use the word “always” implies that in every instance of invasion, riots have occurred. I was merely correcting that inference and pointing out that no riots occurred in these cases.

    In the case of your “…digitally lobotomized, etc…” comment, I was pointing out your hypocrisy by showing that in one sentence you asked Chubby to “spill your animosity elsewhere,” and then in the very next sentence you spill your own animosity upon all of the “19%ers” who visit your site. I certainly was not complaining about the pejorative. I personally am not bothered by your snide remarks and backhanded compliments, for they show your true colors and serve to illustrate my civility.

    Oh, and I did a quick Google search for “digitally lobotomized” and your site was third on the list. Ironic isn’t it?

    In regard to the quoted poll, I did not ever say or infer that the numbers were not accurate, or too old, nor did I mock them. In fact I started that sentence with “just to give you a bit of context” in order to clarify my own position. The mention of the dates was again to provide context for the time frame in which the article was written, and to put in perspective how much has transpired (good or bad – your choice) between the time of writing and the present.

    I merely pointed out the inaccuracies in these statements in order to illustrate your use of obfuscation and rhetoric to further your cause. I know that what I just said must have you bristling, but you cannot deny that it is true. I just pointed it out – twice.

    And one last thing – In your comment to Chubby (#10), you quipped; “Any chance you might consider toning down your rhetoric just a bit?” What can I say? Pot, meet Kettle. Kettle, Pot.

    -Mark

  14. Mark Logan,

    Comparing our preemptive invasion and occupation of Iraq with the liberation of France? Really?

    Comparing the Marshall Plan with the Rumsfeld Plan (no post invasion plan at all)? Are you serious?

    Those are poll percentages are within the type of polling numbers done in any domestic poll and were accomplished at great physical risk to the polltakers. Mock them if you will, but they are bona fide.

    If you think they were too long ago, then find a more recent poll, will you please? Would your point be that we can all assume things have been going so swimmingly in Iraq recently that the occupiers’ poll numbers would be soaring by now? Please.

    As far as using the term “digitally lobotomized, FAUXNews addicted, Bush-worshiping knuckle-draggers…”… if the shoe fits…? If it doesn’t refer to you, why would you be bothered? Methinks the gentleman dost protest too much. You don’t think there has been at least as much venomous bile spilled in the direction of liberals and progressives and impeachment patriots on here? You may need to change your prescription…

    …and get new glasses too!

    The troop surge illusion of gains has run it’s course and the violence is returning. Any partial ceasefire won’t hold as long as American troops are violently holding the territory. Read the newspapers:

    Violence spreads across Iraq as army and militias clash
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/03/25/wiraq525.xml

    Clashes in Iraq’s No. 2 City May Trigger Violence Elsewhere
    The fight against militias in Basra could unravel the key Mahdi Army militia cease-fire in Baghdad
    http://www.usnews.com/articles/news/iraq/2008/03/25/clashes-in-iraqs-no-2-city-may-trigger-violence-elsewhere.html

    Many Iraqi women say life was better under Saddam
    http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2008%5C03%5C26%5Cstory_26-3-2008_pg4_10

    Apparently you listen to and trust perpetual liars instead:

    Perino Spins Renewed Violence In Iraq: ‘The Surge Created New Opportunities’ For Iraqi Security Forces
    http://thinkprogress.org/2008/03/25/perino-surge-isf/

    Gotta know you sources.

    Just keepin’ it real… Dude.

  15. Chubby,

    Captain Strawman!!! Able to leap over readily available facts in a single bound! Bending reality by the sheer force of his will with his eyes completely closed!!!

    Once again I will try to step over the stinking pile of ill-founded arrogance and meritless condescension that you consistently excrete with every post.

    If you were as smart as try to portray through the mask of your incredibly vain writing style, wouldn’t you be teaching at an Ivy League school?

    Any chance you might consider toning down your rhetoric just a bit? You are the one that consistently raises the stink. I just respond to your level of rancor. I recommend more substance and less bile. You’ll feel better in the morning and people might start taking you seriously. No promises on the latter, but you can try anyway.

    Yes you were vague, although not as completely illegibly cryptic as you can tend to be. You tossed out two references without mentioning a single quote or fact from either source so as to set a ‘trap’ in order to pretend that you are the “great knowledgeable one” that is above and beyond all reproach – pretending superiority when challenged for your diluted entry and concluding victory for knocking down the argument of your own imaginary construction.

    If you had taken the time to actually read and digest what I had written before dragging your prejudices and aggression into the formula you would have found that my point was that the occupying forces in sovereign countries are always unwelcome, never last long and the occupation drains the occupying nation to the point that eventually the domestic decay at home – for whatever combination of reasons but all various forms of neglect – forces withdrawal and regrouping. The tentacles of the British Empire reached across the globe, then abated just as their Roman predecessors’ reach had waned. The peak of Spanish dominance may be an even clearer parallel because they simply ran out of cash to sustain their dreams of conquest.

    We have had our century, China and India and the European Union are on the rise. We won’t be the world’s only superpower for much longer – certainly not economically. International businesses and even countries are running from the dollar to the euro. This is where things are headed no matter how blindly one’s nationalistic fervor might be. America doesn’t own even the devalued American anymore and that trend isn’t reversing anytime soon.

    And as far as a parallel situation with the U.S. occupation of Iraq, British control of Northern Ireland is a fit in some ways. The violence finally waned when the British and the Irish sat down and talked – including political members of “THOSE FILTHY TERRORISTS”, revolutionary IRA – Sein Fenn. When everyone was heard and compromises were made, the violence abated.

    Our torture camps and ‘disappearing’ of citizens and indiscriminate killing of males across Iraq has probably ruined any chance of ever regaining the favor of the Iraqi people, but actually letting them participate in their own governance instead of consistently trying to install a malleable government would be a good start.

    Watch the Winter Soldier testimony to hear true front line battleground stories:
    [Videos]: Winter Soldier 2008 – Veterans share Iraq horrors
    http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=5039

    Watch “Bush’s War” on PBS’ FRONTLINE online to see the truth of Bush’s countless lies:
    http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/

    Check out the movie:
    “No End in Sight”

    Check out the movie:
    “Why We Fight”

    Read the Washington Post:
    Most Iraqis Favor Immediate U.S. Pullout, Polls Show
    Leaders’ Views Out of Step With Public
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601721.html

    Educate yourself to the reality of the situation that doesn’t mesh with your skewed view.

    You won’t. You are too enmeshed in your cloistered world view. Hate all liberals. Hate all progressives. Hate all Greens. Hate all environmentalists. Hate all Iraqis. Hate all muslims. Hate all Clintons. Hate Obama. Hate Kucinich. Hate Mikael. Hate ImpeachforPeace.

    Hate.

    Hate.

    Hate.

  16. Mikael stated: “It is horrible policy to occupy another nation by force. It never turns out well. It always spurns nationalistic revolt and acts of revenge upon the occupiers.”

    You mean like the revolts in Japan after WWII? Or maybe you are talking about Germany? Or perhaps about Panama? Grenada? South Korea? Massive revolts after we invaded Italy and France if I remember correctly. Maybe not…

    Mikael also stated: “…stick to the topics and spill your animosity elsewhere…”

    And in the very next post, he wrote: “…digitally lobotomized, FAUXNews addicted, Bush-worshiping knuckle-draggers…”

    Oh, and just to give you a bit of context, your “strong majority of Iraqis” mentioned in the poll cited in the WaPo article above is 1,870 persons. That is 0.007% of a 2007 estimated population of 27,499,638. And the article was, of course from September, 2006, and the Troop Surge began in February, 2007.

    Just keepin’ it real.
    -Mark

  17. Quoteth Mikael:
    “This is imperialism. This is empire building. Check out history to see how the Roman empire, the British Empire and other empires turned out.”

    Mikael, it wasn’t vague at all.

    If you had ever read Edward Gibbon’s “The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire” you would know that the Roman civilization fell not because of over extension or military blunders but because of decay from within, especially with the rise of Christianity. It’s an accepted historical fact since the Age of Enlightenment when it was first published.
    Therefore your argument is moot.
    Commonwealth of Nations? Well, let’s see…there’s Canada, The UK, Australia, New Zealand…oh and let’s not forget the Falkland Islands, but I’m sure you’d find an excuse to tell the sheep herders they should speak Spanish and call themselves Argentinians. Of course there are those who freely left like Jamaica or others like the Raj of India that was fomented by Gandhi but I’m hoping you get the point. If not, I suggest “Two Cheers for The British Empire” by Dinesh D’Souza. Once again your argument is moot.
    I expected more from you Mikael, I thought you knew these things.

  18. Reality check for digitally lobotomized, FAUXNews addicted, Bush-worshiping knuckle-draggers:

    By Amit R. Paley
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Wednesday, September 27, 2006; Page A22
    Most Iraqis Favor Immediate U.S. Pullout, Polls Show
    Leaders’ Views Out of Step With Public

    BAGHDAD, Sept. 26 — A strong majority of Iraqis want U.S.-led military forces to immediately withdraw from the country, saying their swift departure would make Iraq more secure and decrease sectarian violence, according to new polls by the State Department and independent researchers.

    In Baghdad, for example, nearly three-quarters of residents polled said they would feel safer if U.S. and other foreign forces left Iraq, with 65 percent of those asked favoring an immediate pullout, according to State Department polling results obtained by The Washington Post.

    Another new poll, scheduled to be released on Wednesday by the Program on International Policy Attitudes at the University of Maryland, found that 71 percent of Iraqis questioned want the Iraqi government to ask foreign forces to depart within a year. By large margins, though, Iraqis believed that the U.S. government would refuse the request, with 77 percent of those polled saying the United States intends keep permanent military bases in the country.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/26/AR2006092601721.html

  19. Do you have anything to say, Chubby? By all means fill this blog with your intelligence. Please explain how your most recent vague references apply to this discussion. Remember that any posts with personal attacks will be deleted so don’t waste your or my time with them. About half of your last dozen or so have been deleted because you can’t seem to type without bile spilling out in the direction of individuals. I am sorry you are so depressed and full of self-loathing that it spills out in all your interactions with others, but this isn’t a psychology site. I am not going to serve as your counselor. Just stick to the topics and spill your animosity elsewhere please. Thank you.

  20. Apparenty Mikael has never read Gibbon, nor does he understand the Commonwealth of Nations.

  21. Remember that this is not a war. This is an occupation of a sovereign nation. This is imperialism. This is empire building. Check out history to see how the Roman empire, the British Empire and other empires turned out. It is horrible policy to occupy another nation by force. It never turns out well. It always spurns nationalistic revolt and acts of revenge upon the occupiers. We are the Romans in Israel, we are the British in Northern Ireland. We are unwelcome. Thinking we are acting in Iraq’s best interests is a fantasy.

    Here is today’s news:

    Barrages hit Green Zone, gunmen kill seven
    Paul Tait
    Reuters US Online Report Top News

    BAGHDAD (Reuters) – Baghdad’s fortified “Green Zone” came under repeated rocket or mortar attack on Sunday, and police said up to 11 people had been killed by rockets falling short outside the government and diplomatic compound.

    The attacks were part of a wider increase in violence in the capital and in the northern city of Mosul, underlining warnings by U.S. military commanders that recent security gains in Iraq are both fragile and reversible.

    In the past, the U.S. military has blamed such attacks on the Green Zone on rogue elements of Shi’ite cleric Moqtada al- Sadr’s Mehdi Army militia. Sadr has imposed a ceasefire on the militia, but there have been signs that it is fraying.

    (etc.)

    http://www.rawstory.com/news/mochila/Barrages_hit_Green_Zone_gunmen_kill_03232008.html

    It isn’t going to get any better, ever. We are unwelcome there. We are alien occupiers. We are hated more and more each day we stay.

  22. Cheney’s goals are all being achieved in Iraq: profit, profit, profit…

    The heartless bastard could care less how many Iraqi children get their legs blown off as long as the bottom lines for Halliburton and EXXON/Mobil keep going up, up, up!!!

  23. “It would be a mistake now to be so eager to draw down the force that we risk putting the outcome in jeopardy,” Cheney said. “And I don’t think we’ll do that.”
    -From the original McClatchy News source

    Good!

  24. Who is doing the killing?
    Read the article again.

    That’s the side you support. The suicide bombers killing innocent civilians and our troops. You cannot justify their actions, but you’ll try anyhow.
    And somehow, some way, Dick Cheney made them do their cowardly deeds. Cheney went to Iraq with intentions to provoke a female suicide bomber to blow herself up and kill religious pilgrims, mostly women?

    It has to be a Rovian plot! Such evil genius!

    Jassim Hussein states “And I also blame the security forces because we don’t have checkpoints in this area.”
    That is a cry for help, not somebody yelling “Yankee Go Home”.

    This article is so idiotic, the author should be committed to a lunatic asylum.
    This is like cheering the Nazis while they load the gas chamber and blaming Harry Truman.

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