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May 8, 2007

Sign Petition to get MoveOn.org to Poll entire Membership on Impeachment

Filed under: Impeachment Progress News — Mikael @ 12:54 pm

move_on.gifIt’s Time for MoveOn to Start Talking about Impeachment:

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To Eli Pariser, MoveOn.org Executive Director:
With more than 3 million members, MoveOn plays a vital role not only in shaping public policy, but in educating the American public about the most important political issues of the day. With this power comes a responsibility to engage with these issues in as forthright a manner as possible.

Until now, MoveOn has declined to call for the impeachment of George W. Bush or Dick Cheney, citing a purported lack of interest among its membership. But, as many frustrated members have pointed out, they have not been asked. It has recently come to light that MoveOn is quietly conducting an online poll on the question among a small group of its members. We applaud this encouraging first step but hope that MoveOn will go further by soliciting feedback from its entire membership. When asked why the poll was not taken of all members, a MoveOn organizer explained:

Rarely do we send out a survey like this to the whole membership (we work very hard to send no more than one email to our members per day; the more they receive the less likely they are to open any of them, there is also an issue of bandwidth capabilities). We generally only do that when we have to act immediately or when we are acting on very specific legislation.

We feel confident that the membership of MoveOn will forgive the organization a single e-mail about a question of such urgency and importance. And we would remind MoveOn that specific legislation on impeachment already exists. H Res 333, introduced by Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), and cosponsored by Rep. William Lacy Clay (D-MO) and Rep. Janice Schakowsky (D-IL) calls for the impeachment of Vice-President Cheney on the grounds that he manipulated intelligence “to deceive the citizens and Congress of the United States by fabricating a threat of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction to justify the use of the United States Armed Forces against the nation of Iraq.”

Few will dispute that lying the nation into a disastrous war that has claimed the lives of more than 3,000 Americans and hundreds of thousands of Iraqis rises to the level of “high crimes and misdemeanors” and that these allegations merit serious examination by Congress. On April 28, 2007, Americans in more than 125 locations around the country took to the streets to demonstrate their support for impeachment. That same weekend, delegates to the annual convention of the California Democratic Party, the largest state chapter of the Democratic Party, overwhelmingly passed a resolution calling for the impeachment of George Bush and Dick Cheney. Two days later, speaking on NPR, leading antiwar Congressman John Murtha (D-PA) pointedly said that impeachment was “on the table” in Congress.

The time has come for the Bush administration to be held accountable. We respectfully urge MoveOn to exercise leadership on the question of impeachment and to begin an open dialogue with its members about the issue. As MoveOn likes to say, “Every member has a voice.”

Contact: MoveOnToImpeachment@gmail.com

Original signers:

Medea Benjamin

Elaine Brower
Steering Committee, World Can’t Wait, mother of U.S. Marine

Tim Carpenter
Director, Progressive Democrats of America

Noam Chomsky
MIT

Marjorie Cohn
President, National Lawyers Guild

Elizabeth de la Vega
Former federal prosecutor and author of U.S. v. George W. Bush et. al.

Jane Dugdale
Coordinator, Bryn Mawr Council of MoveOn/Operation Democracy

Bob Fertik
President, Democrats.com and ImpeachPAC.org

Elizabeth Holtzman
Former Congresswoman, member of House panel that voted to impeach President Nixon, author of The Impeachment of George W. Bush.

Dave Lindorff
Author of The Case for Impeachment

Dennis Loo
Co-editor of Impeach the President: the Case Against Bush and Cheney

Cynthia McKinney
Former Congresswoman, author of impeachment legislation in the 109th Congress

Bill Moyer
Executive Director, Backbone Campaign

Brad Newsham
Founder, The Beach Impeach Project

Jacob Park
A28 National Coordinator

Peter Phillips
Director, Project Censored, Co-editor of Impeach the President: The Case Against Bush and Cheney

Cindy Sheehan
Director, Camp Casey Peace Institute

David Swanson
Co-founder, AfterDowningStreet.org coalition

Howard Zinn
Author of A People’s History of the United States


5 Comments

  1. Sign Petition to get MoveOn.org to Poll entire Membership on Impeachment…

    Sign Petition to get MoveOn.org to Poll entire Membership on Impeachment….

    Trackback by www.buzzflash.net — May 8, 2007 @ 1:01 pm

  2. This is my email to Rep. Velazquez at the fighting 12th District:

    Dear Representative Velazquez,
    I have lived in Williamsburg for 9 years. I was working at the Borders bookstore at 5 World Trade Center when the 9/11 attack took place. I got away unharmed, thank God, but I have been concerned by the course Bush administration took after essentially botching the action in Afghanistan, letting bin Laden get away, and getting distracted by the war in Iraq. I appreciate your own statements in opposition to the this war and agree with you. This email is to ask you to support Dennis Kucinich’s proposal to impeach Vice President Cheney. I lived in Cleveland, Ohio for most of my adult life. I moved there when Kucinich was mayor and I am aware of that his idealistic efforts are sometimes, perhaps, quixotic. Even so, the charges are serious, and I hope you consider them seriously. I think this Administration is incapable of learning from its mistakes and homeland security, as well as foreign policy, will continue to decline until Cheney and Bush are removed from office.
    thank you,
    Lawrence Swan

    Comment by Lawrence Swan — May 8, 2007 @ 5:09 pm

  3. IMPEACH NOW!!

    Comment by spencer schluter — May 9, 2007 @ 2:12 pm

  4. you all wish you can impeach Pres. Bush. I will tell if that bitch gets in or that niger gets in. that counrty that I love will be so fucked up. it will take 20 to 50 years to fix it. the bitch want high taxes,socialized medicine, and etc. the niger will do the same ,but we will be eaten more chicken and more watermelons then ever. so vote for a republican. thank you

    Comment by bill thompson — May 29, 2007 @ 9:11 pm

  5. The atrocities and injustice of this administration should be recognized before Bush leaves office.

    Comment by Chris DeThomas — May 25, 2008 @ 9:01 am

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The first impeachment resolution introduced by McKinney included Bush, Cheney, and Rice. Although, even if we only initially pursue Bush, initiating the impeachment process will lead to an investigation that will implicate lots of people in the Bush administration who are guilty of committing crimes, including Cheney.

No matter who we get to replace Bush, we’ll be showing those in power that anyone who breaks the law will be held accountable.

• Promoting impeachment will seem too “extreme.”
Demanding that crimes be investigated is NOT extreme. Some previous impeachment attempts were considered extreme because they were pursued for actions that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis, which is what the impeachment tool is meant to be used for. Nixon's impeachment, however, was bipartisan.

  • We should wait to impeach...
Wait to impeach? We've waited 3 or more years too long already. We had enough evidence to impeach years ago. Remember, an impeachment only means you have enough evidence to warrant a trial, just like an indictment. Our congress people didn't take an oath to bipartisanship. They took an oath to the Constitution. Besides which, our troops, Iraqi civilians, and our own civil liberties are all waiting for this.
 
• Before we impeach, we should get some legislation passed...
And with unconstitutional Presidential Signing Statements, veto power, and the power of "Commander in Chief" at his disposal, how do you think Congress is going to get anything accomplished without first impeaching Bush?

If your tire blows while you're driving, do you stop to fix it? Or do you continue driving on your rim because to stop would take too much time?

• It hurts the democracy to go through a presidential impeachment. And Bush is a lame duck anyway.
Holding government officials accountable for their actions strengthens our democracy. Letting lawlessness stand weakens it.

Sometimes reprimanding a child (president) doesn't make the family (Washington) a happy place. But you still have to do it so the child and his siblings (future presidents) learn about accountability. Impeachment is horribly UNDERUSED, which is part of why there's so much corruption at the top. Politicians must learn to fear it. People think things are better because we improved the make-up of our law-making body, Congress. But Bush is BREAKING LAWS. So, it doesn't matter how many laws Congress passes if they don't serve their OVERSIGHT duties as well by impeaching. They swore to defend the Constitution. What are laws without enforcement?

Besides, considering Bush's track-record of breaking laws, he can still do a lot of damage. Our troops, Iran, and our Supreme Court are all endangered so long as he remains in office. Waiting until Bush is out of office will leave us complicit in any further crimes he commits. The Union of Concerned Scientists has estimated that the death toll from a "tactical" nuclear weapon of the kind Bush is contemplating using in Iran would be at minimum 3 million men, women, and children. The path of death would stretch across country boundaries into India.

Perhaps worst of all, we set a terrible precedent by allowing Bush to stay in office after he's broken so many laws. Impeachment will stop future presidents from using Bush's actions as justification for even more lawbreaking and erosion of civil liberties.

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Republican. If we support impeachment it will lower the chances of my party winning in 2008.

So, your party would rather win elections than do what's right for the country? I hope you're wrong. I also hope the public is willing to throw additional support to any party that holds our elected officials accountable for their actions. This has been historically true with every single impeachment effort launched. And this impeachment effort would begin with majority support (unlike most past impeachments including Nixon).

• Impeachment will never happen. Congress members will block it.
Well, all we need is a majority of support in the House. And 2/3rds vote in the Senate to remove Bush from office will happen once the evidence gets aired on the floor of the House, and subsequently the national media outlets. The political pressure will become too great.

Today's impossibility is tomorrow's reality. Congress members will realize that tying their political future to Bush reduces their chances of getting elected. Remember, one way or another, Bush is gone by 2009— but members of Congress may retain their offices beyond that date. Bush's poll numbers are extremely low, and most Americans support impeachment. This is a bipartisan movement. This means that if we make the pressure unbearable for Members of Congress, they'll turn on him to keep their own seats (like they did with Nixon). It's already starting to happen. While many Members of Congress have behaved unethically in the last few years, it's important to understand that this is related to their warped view of what's in their self-interest. Let's wake them up to their true self-interest (impeaching the president), by showing them our support for impeachment.

And even if we only impeach, and the Senate fails to do their duty and remove him from office, it will only implicate the Senators who fail to do their sworn Constitutional duty.

• But Speaker of the House Pelosi said that Impeachment was "off the table."

Pelosi most likely said this to remove any appearance of conflict-of-interest that would arise if she were thrust into the presidency as a result of the coming impeachment. What we need to do is to pressure Pelosi not to interfere with impeachment maneuverings within her party. Sending her Do-It-Yourself impeachments legitimizes her when she joins the impeachment movement in the future.

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