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Arguments Against Bush Impeachment...

• If we impeach Bush, we’ll get President Cheney!
The first impeachment resolution introduced by McKinney included Bush, Cheney, and Rice. Although, even if we only initially pursue Bush, initiating the impeachment process will lead to an investigation that will implicate lots of people in the Bush administration who are guilty of committing crimes, including Cheney.

In addition, no matter who we get to replace Bush, we’ll be showing those in power that anyone who breaks the law will be held accountable.

• Promoting impeachment will seem too “extreme.”
Demanding that crimes be investigated is NOT extreme. Some previous impeachment attempts were considered extreme because they were pursued for actions that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis, which is what the impeachment tool is meant to be used for. Nixon's impeachment, however, was bipartisan.

  • We should wait to impeach...
Wait to impeach? We've waited 3 or more years too long already. We had enough evidence to impeach years ago. Remember, an impeachment only means you have enough evidence to warrant a trial, just like an indictment. Our congress people didn't take an oath to bipartisanship. They took an oath to the Constitution. Besides which, our troops, Iraqi civilians, and our own civil liberties are all waiting for this.
 
• Before we impeach, we should get some legislation passed...
And with unconstitutional Presidential Signing Statements, veto power, and the power of "Commander in Chief" at his disposal, how do you think Congress is going to get anything accomplished without first impeaching Bush?

If your tire blows while you're driving, do you stop to fix it? Or do you continue driving on your rim because to stop would take too much time?

• It hurts the democracy to go through a presidential impeachment. And Bush is a lame duck anyway.
Holding government officials accountable for their actions strengthens our democracy. Letting lawlessness stand weakens it.

Sometimes reprimanding a child (president) doesn't make the family (Washington) a happy place. But you still have to do it so the child and his siblings (future presidents) learn about accountability. Impeachment is horribly UNDERUSED, which is part of why there's so much corruption at the top. Politicians must learn to fear it. After this last election, some folks felt better since the make-up of our law-making body (Congress) changed. But Bush is BREAKING LAWS. So, it doesn't matter how many laws Congress passes if they don't serve their OVERSIGHT duties as well by impeaching. They swore to defend the Constitution. What are laws without enforcement?

Besides, considering Bush's track-record of breaking laws, he can still do a lot of damage. Our troops, Iran, and our Supreme Court are all endangered so long as he remains in office. Waiting until Bush is out of office will leave us complicit in any further crimes he commits. The Union of Concerned Scientists has estimated that the death toll from a "tactical" nuclear weapon of the kind Bush has contemplated using in Iran would be at minimum 3 million men, women, and children. The path of death would stretch across country boundaries into India.

Perhaps worst of all, we set a terrible precedent by allowing Bush to stay in office after he's broken so many laws. Impeachment will stop future presidents from using Bush's actions as justification for even more lawbreaking and erosion of civil liberties.

• I'm a Democrat/Republican. If we support impeachment it will lower the chances of my party winning in 2008.

So, your party would rather win elections than do what's right for the country? I hope you're wrong. I also hope the public is willing to throw additional support to any party that holds our elected officials accountable for their actions. This has been historically true with every single impeachment effort launched. And this impeachment effort would begin with majority support (unlike most past impeachments including Nixon).

• Impeachment will never happen. Congress members will block it.
Well, all we need is a majority of support in the House. And 2/3rds vote in the Senate to remove Bush from office will happen once the evidence gets aired on the floor of the House, and subsequently the national media outlets. The political pressure will become too great.

Today's impossibility is tomorrow's reality. Congress members will realize that tying their political future to Bush reduces their chances of getting elected. Remember, one way or another, Bush is gone by 2009— but members of Congress may retain their offices beyond that date. Bush's poll numbers are extremely low, and most Americans support impeachment. This is a bipartisan movement. This means that if we make the pressure unbearable for Members of Congress, they'll turn on him to keep their own seats (like they did with Nixon). It's already starting to happen. While many Members of Congress have behaved unethically in the last few years, it's important to understand that this is related to their warped view of what's in their self-interest. Let's wake them up to their true self-interest (impeaching the president), by showing them our support for impeachment.

And even if we only impeach, and the Senate fails to do their duty and remove him from office, it will only implicate the Senators who fail to do their sworn Constitutional duty.

• But Speaker of the House Pelosi said that Impeachment was "off the table."

Pelosi most likely said this to remove any appearance of conflict-of-interest that would arise if she were thrust into the presidency as a result of the coming impeachment. What we need to do is to pressure Pelosi not to interfere with impeachment maneuverings within her party. Sending her Do-It-Yourself impeachments legitimizes her when she joins the impeachment movement in the future.

• But the public doesn't support impeachment.
Newsalert: Newsweek's recent poll shows 51% support for Impeachment.  Not to mention that Bush's approval ratings are less than half that of Nixon's prior to his impeachment investigations.

•You're just angry at what happened to Clinton
Impeachment is a nonpartisan issue. It's not about Clinton, Lincoln, or any other president. Some previous impeachment attempts were considered a waste of time because they were pursued for things that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis, which is what the Impeachment tool was intended for. The argument that we can't impeach Bush because there are previous presidents who also did bad things is the same as the argument you might hear from your child that you shouldn't punish him because the neighbor's kid did the same thing and didn't get punished. We don't want a presidential rush to the lowest common denominator. We have a duty to hold THIS president accountable to the Constitution.

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Cheney aide Addington subpoenaed by Congress on torture
Posted in Impeachment Progress News on May 9th, 2008 by Mikael


david_addington.jpgCheney Aide Subpoenaed to Testify to Congress
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Washington - U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff was subpoenaed on Wednesday to testify in a congressional probe of the administrations treatment and possible torture of enemy combatants.

House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, a Michigan Democrat, issued the subpoena to David Addington a day after it was authorized by a …


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Mission Accomplished: Bush kills another future terrorist
Posted in Impeachment News on May 8th, 2008 by Mikael


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Submitted by davidswanson on Thu, 2008-05-08 15:33. Media
Newspaper Criticized For Publishing Photo
By Helen Thomas, Hearst White House columnist

"Hearst Newspapers" — – WASHINGTON — Some readers resented The Washington Post for publishing an Associated Press photograph of a critically wounded Iraqi child being lifted from the rubble of his home in Baghdad's Sadr City "after a U.S. airstrike."

Two-year-old Ali Hussein later died in a …


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Republicans Fighting For Impeachment
Posted in Impeachment Progress News, Republicans for Impeachment on May 6th, 2008 by Jodin Morey


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The time has come to rescue the Party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt and Dwight D. Eisenhower from the extremists on the right who call themselves Republican by name only, when in fact they have only been using and abusing the Party toward their own nefarious ends. Many traditional Republicans are feeling betrayed and now realize that Bush & company do not stand for traditional Republican values such as fiscal responsibility, small government, national security, family …


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Upcoming Highway Impeachment Bannering!
Posted in Impeachment Events on May 4th, 2008 by Jodin Morey


Get Ready!!!
Get Set…
All across the country, there will be banners calling for impeachment on highway over-passes during the Memorial Day weekend of May 24 through May 26.
Prepare and Get your banners ready!
Susan C. Serpa
www.neimpeach.org


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DOJ Subpoena May 12th if Rove doesn't agree to testify
Posted in Impeachment Progress News, D.C., Alabama on May 2nd, 2008 by Mikael


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House Judiciary Chairman John Conyers, Michigan Democrat, threatened to subpoena Karl Rove, former deputy chief of staff for President Bush, if he continues to refuse to testify before Conyers' committee about the firing of former U.S. attorneys.

Here is the letter Conyers and several other members of the committee sent to Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin at Patton Boggs. (You can also view the letter Luskin sent Conyers yesterday here.)
May 1, …


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Valerie Plame resurrects suit against Bush aides over CIA outing
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on May 9th, 2008 by Angela


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The lawyers for outed CIA officer Valerie Plame have filed suit in federal court to appeal a decision to quash her lawsuit against those in the Bush administration she says illegally outed her as a CIA operative in 2003.

Plame says her CIA cover was blown as retribution for her husband's criticism of the Iraq war. She says that violated her constitutional rights.

 

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Conyers Subpoenas Addington in Torture Probe
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on May 9th, 2008 by Angela


180707addington.jpgReuters

U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff was subpoenaed on Wednesday to testify in a congressional probe of the administration's treatment and possible torture of enemy combatants.

House of Representatives Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers, a Michigan Democrat, issued the subpoena to David Addington a day after it was authorized by a House panel.

The administration contends its aides can not be forced to testify. But Addington has indicated he may do …


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Bush's FEC Moves Seen as Aiding McCain's Campaign
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on May 9th, 2008 by Angela


bush-mccain.jpgBy Michael Luo, New York Times

For months, the White House and Senate Republicans have been content to let a political impasse over vacancies at the Federal Election Commission persist, sidelining the regulatory agency in the throes of a heated presidential campaign.

But on Tuesday, President Bush suddenly announced three new nominees to the commission. He also backed away from Republicans' insistence that the nomination of Hans von Spakovsky, a former Justice Department …


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FBI seeking Condoleeza Rice records on ethics probe
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on May 8th, 2008 by Angela


condoleezza_rice.jpgBy Marisa Taylor, McClatchy Newspapers

FBI agents investigating government watchdog Scott Bloch have subpoenaed any records that would reveal whether concerns about the 2004 elections prompted him to clear Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice of ethics violations.

Bloch, the U.S. special counsel who investigates federal employee whistleblower complaints, found no merit to allegations that Rice, then President Bush's national security adviser, timed some of her trips to boost Bush's …


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FBI Withdraws Digital Library's National Security Letter
Posted in Impeachment Evidence on May 8th, 2008 by Angela


fbi-nsl-chart-5-1.jpgBy Paul Elias, The Associated Press

A nonprofit digital library has successfully fought an FBI attempt to seize information about one of its users, and is calling on other groups to challenge government agencies attempting to obtain online customer information without a judge's order.

The FBI presented the San Francisco-based Internet Archive with a national security letter in November asking for a library patron's records. The group sued the agency a month later, …


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"Former Commander GTMO" on Resume Costs General Hood New Job In Pakistan. More chickens coming home to roost…
Posted in Impeachment Related News, IfP Other on May 9th, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Pentagon Drops Post in Pakistan for Top General

By ERIC SCHMITT
May 9, 2008
Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

WASHINGTON - When the Pentagon announced in March that Maj. Gen. Jay W. Hood would


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Bush's "Government in Secret" leaves us wondering what else is under lock and key
Posted in Impeachment Related Oped on May 8th, 2008 by Angela


473px-russ_feingold_official_photo_2.jpgBy Russ Feingold (D-Wis.), Los Angeles Times

The Bush administration recently announced it will allow select members of Congress to read Justice Department legal opinions about the CIA's controversial detainee interrogation program that have been hidden from Congress until now. But as the administration allows a glimpse of this secret law - and it is law - we are left wondering what other laws it is still keeping under lock and key.

It's a …


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U.S. To Make Legal History… First Ever Child Prosecution For War Crimes!
Posted in IfP Evidence, Impeachment Related News, IfP Other on May 6th, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Khadr's child soldier defence tossed out

Steven Edwards, Juliet O'Neill, Canwest News Service
Published: Wednesday, April 30, 2008
Copyright © 2007 CanWest Interactive, a division of CanWest MediaWorks Publications, Inc.. All rights reserved.

A U.S.


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F.B.I. Raids Office of Special Counsel - Bush Watchdogs Suspected of Corruption! Say it isn't so…
Posted in Impeachment Related News, IfP Other on May 6th, 2008 by Marshalldoc


F.B.I. Raids Office of Special Counsel
By DAVID STOUT
May 7, 2008
Copyright 2008 The New York Times Company

WASHINGTON - The office of the official responsible for protecting federal workers from political interference was


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Busheviks Invent New Rule: No Need To Tell Public Of New Executive Orders
Posted in Impeachment Evidence, IfP Evidence, Impeachment Related News, IfP Other on May 6th, 2008 by Marshalldoc


Today's Must Read (From TPM Muckraker)

By Paul Kiel
May 1, 2008, 9:59AM
Copyright 2007 TPM Media LLC. All Rights Reserved.

You know those secret legal opinions by the Justice Department that tell the administration


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