• If we impeach Bush,
we’ll get President Cheney!
Initiating the impeachment process will lead to an investigation that
will implicate lots of people in the Bush administration who are guilty
of committing crimes, including Cheney.
In addition, no matter who we get to replace Bush, we’ll be
showing those in power that anyone who breaks the law will be held
accountable.
• Promoting impeachment will seem too
“extreme.”
Demanding that crimes be investigated is NOT extreme. Some previous
impeachment attempts were considered extreme because they were pursued
for actions that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis,
which is what the impeachment tool is meant to be used for. Nixon's
impeachment, however, was bipartisan.
• We should wait to impeach...
Wait to impeach? We've waited 3 or more years too long
already. We had enough evidence to impeach years ago. Remember, an
impeachment only means you have enough evidence to warrant a trial,
just like an indictment. Our congress people didn't take an oath to
bipartisanship. They took an oath to the Constitution. Besides which,
our troops, Iraqi civilians, and our own civil liberties are all
waiting for this.
• Before we impeach, we should
get some legislation passed...
And with unconstitutional Presidential Signing
Statements, veto power, and the power of "Commander in Chief" at his
disposal, how do you think Congress is going to get ANYTHING
accomplished without first impeaching Bush?
If your tire blows while you're driving, do you stop to fix it? Or do
you continue driving on your rim because to stop would take too much
time?
• It hurts the democracy to go
through a presidential impeachment. And Bush is a lame duck anyway.
Holding government officials accountable for their actions strengthens
our democracy. Letting lawlessness stand weakens it.
Sometimes reprimanding a child (president) doesn't make the family
(Washington) a happy place. But you still have to do it so the child
and his siblings (future presidents) learn about accountability.
Impeachment is horribly UNDERUSED, which is part of why there's so much
corruption at the top. Politicians must learn to fear it. People think
things are better because we improved the make-up of our law-making
body, Congress. But Bush is BREAKING LAWS. So, it doesn't matter how
many laws Congress passes if they don't serve their OVERSIGHT duties as
well by impeaching. They swore to defend the Constitution. What are
laws without enforcement?
Besides, Bush can still do a lot of damage. Our troops, Iran, and our
Supreme Court are all endangered so long as he remains in office.
Waiting until Bush is out of office will leave us complicit in any
further crimes he commits. The Union of Concerned Scientists has
estimated that the death toll from a "tactical" nuclear weapon of the
kind Bush is contemplating using in Iran would be at minimum 3 million
men, women, and children. The path of death would stretch across
country boundaries into India.
Perhaps worst of all, we set a terrible precedent by allowing Bush to
stay in office after he's broken so many laws. Impeachment will stop
future presidents from using Bush's actions as justification for even
more lawbreaking and erosion of civil liberties.
• I'm a Democrat/Republican. If we support
impeachment it will lower the chances of my party winning in 2008.
So, your party would rather win elections than do what's
right for the country? I hope you're wrong. I also hope the public is
willing to throw additional support to any party that holds our elected
officials accountable for their actions.
• Impeachment will never happen. The
Republicans will block it.
Well, all we need is a majority of support in the House. And 2/3rds
vote in the Senate to remove Bush from office will happen once the evidence
gets aired on CSPAN. The political pressure will become too great.
Today's impossibility is tomorrow's reality. Republican Congress
members will realize that tying their political future to Bush reduces
their chances of getting elected. Remember, one way or another, Bush is
gone by 2009— but members of Congress may retain their
offices beyond that date. Bush's poll numbers are extremely low, and
most Americans support impeachment. This is a bipartisan movement. This
means that if we make the pressure unbearable for Members of Congress,
they'll turn on him to keep their own seats (like they did with Nixon).
It's already starting to happen. While many Members of Congress have
behaved unethically in the last few years, it's important to understand
that this is related to their warped view of what's in their
self-interest. Let's wake them up to their true self-interest
(impeaching the president), by showing them our support for
impeachment.
And even if we only impeach, and the Senate fails to do their duty and
remove him from office, it will only implicate the Senators who fail to
do their sworn Constitutional duty.
• But Speaker of the House Pelosi said
that Impeachment was "off the table."
Pelosi most likely said this to remove any appearance of
conflict-of-interest that would arise if she were thrust into the
presidency as a result of the coming impeachment. What we need to do is
to pressure Pelosi not to interfere with impeachment maneuverings
within her party. Sending her Do-It-Yourself impeachments legitimizes
her when she joins the impeachment movement in the future.
• But the public doesn't support
impeachment.
Newsalert: Newsweek's recent poll shows 51% support for
Impeachment. Not to mention that support for Bush's
impeachment is more than it was before Nixon's investigation.
• You're just angry at what happened to
Clinton
Impeachment is a nonpartisan issue. It's not about
Clinton, Lincoln, or any other president. Some previous impeachment
attempts were considered a waste of time because they were pursued for
things that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis, which
is what the Impeachment tool was intended for. The argument that we
can't impeach Bush because there are previous presidents who also did
bad things is the same as the argument you might hear from your child
that you shouldn't punish him because the neighbor's kid did the same
thing and didn't get punished. We don't want a presidential rush to the
lowest common denominator. We have a duty to hold THIS president to the
Constitution.
• If we don't support our president, we aid the terrorists.
We support terrorism when we fail to deal with its root causes
(poverty, lack of education, support of dictatorships, etc.). We also
support it by enabling a president who creates breeding grounds for
terrorists — like Iraq has now become, thanks to our invasion
and occupation.
Middle Eastern countries are upset with the oppressive international
policies of the past and current administration. We might develop more
healthy relationships with these countries if we appeared to learn from
our mistakes by impeaching a president who has been so instrumental in
that oppression.
• Impeachment is the wrong
approach. Our government is tyrannical, and needs to be violently
overthrown through a popular revolution.
What makes you think that if our government fell today,
the U.S. population would replace it with something better? Violent
revolutions are bloody business, and there’s absolutely no
guarantee that even with the best of intentions the resulting new
government would be an improvement over the current one. Indeed, it
could be much worse. This is because revolution only makes sense once
the people understand the problem. Thanks to a complicit media, most
people don't have the information they need to fully understand
what’s currently happening in the U.S., so before we can
create positive change, we must help them to understand the situation
we're in. We don't do that by pushing them away with what appears to be
extremism. We must use skillful means to reveal the tyranny of this
administration (and government in general). We can do this by making
reasonable demands (for instance, that suspicious activities become
subject to investigation). Each time we're denied, more and more people
will see the injustice (especially when we take to the streets each
time!). Slowly we’ll get enough people on board to create the
changes we need, whether our goal is gradual repair of the system or
revolution. But either way, the path is the same: First, we try to
change the system. When the system shows itself to be tyrannical and
unwilling to change, the people will move closer to revolution. If
instead, the system allows the demanded changes, then we’ve
won a victory — and maybe the theory that the system is
hopelessly tyrannical is flawed. The real point is that political
change is a process, and we need to have the resolve to see it through.
Demanding immediate perfection is unrealistic and counterproductive,
and too easily turns into a cop-out for failing to do the hard work of
creating meaningful change.
Side note:
Some Democratic Members of Congress have indicated that they're not
currently pursuing Bush's impeachment. While this is upsetting, they
percieve it to be in their (and the Democratic Party's) political best
interest, at least until the political pressure builds. There are other
reasons they're waiting as well, and one of those things is us. They
(as well as Republican members) need us to legitimize their support for
the process. Having millions of ImpeachForPeace.org's "Do-It-Yourself Impeachment"
arrive at their door is one powerful tool toward making that happen.
"I just want you to know that, when we talk about war,
we're really talking about peace."
-Bush, June 18, 2002
"War is Peace"
-Big Brother in George Orwell's 1984