{"id":1841,"date":"2007-05-22T00:44:15","date_gmt":"2007-05-22T06:44:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/impeach_bush_blog\/?p=1841"},"modified":"2017-05-21T01:03:05","modified_gmt":"2017-05-21T07:03:05","slug":"minneapolis-mayor-rt-rybak-asks-impeachforpeaceorg-to-not-include-me-as-someone-who-supports-impeachment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/2007\/05\/minneapolis-mayor-rt-rybak-asks-impeachforpeaceorg-to-not-include-me-as-someone-who-supports-impeachment\/","title":{"rendered":"Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak asks ImpeachforPeace.org to &#8220;not include me as someone who supports impeachment&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a class=\"imagelink\"  href=\"https:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/05\/jodinrybak.jpg\"> <img decoding=\"async\" style='float: left; margin: 0px 15px 15px 0px; width: 250px;' src=\"https:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2007\/05\/jodinrybak.thumbnail.jpg\" alt=\"jodinrybak.jpg\" align=\"left\" \/><small>~ Jodin Morey speaking with Mayor Rybak on May Day<\/small><br \/>\nby Mikael Rudolph of ImpeachforPeace.org<\/a><\/p>\n<p>In an article published by our organization on Monday, May 7th, the day after the May Day parade: <a href=\"http:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/?p=1652\"><i>Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak: &#8216;Bush\/Cheney actions justify impeachment&#8217;<\/i><\/a> we reported that the mayor had approached us in the staging area prior to the parade and told us that he was in favor of the impeachment of President George W. Bush.<\/p>\n<p>In light of a strong denial issued from the mayor&#8217;s office concerning his support &#8211; or rather lack thereof &#8211; of impeachment, we feel compelled to share our experience.<\/p>\n<p>The second and third paragraphs of the article in question read as follows:<\/p>\n<p><i>As we were preparing to march, Minneapolis Mayor R.T. Rybak stopped by and shared his thoughts on impeachment. At first, he noted, he had considered impeachment a distraction from the important political work that needed to be done, but he had been convinced after hearing a talk by Daniel Ellsberg, the whistleblower who leaked &#8220;The Pentagon Papers&#8221; in 1971: &#8220;If the actions of the Bush Administration don&#8217;t justify impeachment, what would?&#8221;\u009d<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Mayor Rybak chatted with us briefly before departing, and soon after, Representative Keith Ellison (D-MN) stopped by and gave his best wishes to impeachment marchers. Rep. Ellison also indicated that he would be interested in hosting a Town Hall meeting on impeachment. Both Rep. Ellison and Mayor Rybak were given ImpeachforPeace.org buttons, which they promptly pinned to their shirts.<\/p>\n<p>With Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) enthusiastically agreeing that day to our request for him to host a Minneapolis Town Hall meeting on the topic of impeachment (now tentatively scheduled for Sunday, September 23rd) we were very excited to hear that we could also now count upon the mayor&#8217;s support of our organization&#8217;s mission&#8230; or so each IFP member who spoke with the mayor that day thought.<\/p>\n<p>That friday the following e-mail was forwarded to us that was being circulated in local peace and justice activism circles as a response to those who had contacted the mayor&#8217;s office regarding this apparent revelation.<\/p>\n<p>[all e-mails verbatim as received by us except e-mails removed to protect against SPAM]<\/p>\n<p><i>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:12:29 -0500<br \/>\nFrom: &#8220;Smith, Tina F.&#8221;<br \/>\nSubject: EMAIL FROM MAYOR R.T. RYBAK:<br \/>\nInaccurate email<\/p>\n<p>EMAIL ON BEHALF OF MAYOR R.T. RYBAK<\/p>\n<p>Dear Friends and Colleagues:<\/p>\n<p>There are emails circulating that inaccurately say that I support<br \/>\nimpeachment of the President.<br \/>\nThis is not true.<br \/>\nI have asked them to<br \/>\nstop, but they have continued.<br \/>\nIf you get one of these emails, please<br \/>\nhelp me set the record straight.<\/p>\n<p>I have been deeply opposed to the War in Iraq from the beginning, and I<br \/>\nremain so. We must demand accountability from the President and this<br \/>\nadministration.<br \/>\nI believe, however, the impeachment process would be a<br \/>\ndistraction from the crucial work of holding this administration<br \/>\naccountable.<\/p>\n<p>Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any additional<br \/>\nquestions about this issue and my position.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you,<br \/>\nR.T. Rybak<br \/>\nMinneapolis Mayor<\/p>\n<p>Email sent by:<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Tina Smith &#8211; Chief of Staff<br \/>\nOffice of Mayor R.T. Rybak<br \/>\nSuite 331, CIty Hall<br \/>\n350 South Fifth Street<br \/>\nMinneapolis, MN<br \/>\n55415<br \/>\n612-673-2100<\/p>\n<p>A number of things about this e-mail catch our notice:<\/p>\n<p>~ The e-mail was sent from the mayor&#8217;s chief of staff&#8217;s e-mail account, yet is &#8216;signed&#8217; by the mayor.<\/p>\n<p>~ The subject says that it is &#8220;FROM&#8221; the mayor, but the heading in the body of the e-mail says it is: &#8220;ON BEHALF OF&#8221; the mayor.<\/p>\n<p>~ The existence of a dichotomy in the text:<\/p>\n<p><i>&#8220;We must demand accountability from the President and this administration.<br \/>\nI believe, however, the impeachment process would be a distraction from the crucial work of holding this administration accountable.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Impeachment is accountability. It is the process of accountability established by our nation&#8217;s founders to protect our nation from exactly the crisis situation we find ourselves in today. There is no other legal political means by which to directly hold the President and Vice President accountable for their crimes and misdemeanors.<\/p>\n<p>~ Finally, the e-mail represents a simple denial of support for impeachment. Here is what the following members of ImpeachforPeace.org remembered of their encounter with the mayor that day:<\/p>\n<p><i>&#8220;Before the May Day parade, Mayor Rybak approached me, introduced himself, and spoke about his own recent conversion to the cause of impeachment as a result of words by Daniel Ellsberg. We chatted briefly about this topic before Mayor Rybak moved on.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>~ D.L. Corvin (co-writer of article mentioned above)<\/p>\n<p><i>&#8220;I was wearing an orange &#8220;detainee&#8221;\u009d Guantanamo jumpsuit when the Minneapolis Mayor eagerly told me about how his mind had been changed on impeachment.<br \/>\nHe described how he met Daniel Ellsberg, who had challenged his reticence by asking him what president could ever be impeached, if not Bush.<br \/>\nThe mayor described how he and his wife had discussed this question in the car on the way home, and that it had helped him to change his mind in supporting impeachment.<br \/>\nI then told the mayor that it was also crucial to set a precedent for future presidents that this criminal behavior wouldn&#8217;t be tolerated, to maintain the rule of law.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>~ Jodin Morey (IFP co-founder and creator of the DIY impeachment).<\/p>\n<p><i>&#8220;I recall RT saying that he had found the arguments for impeachment very convincing [&#8230;] he mentioned something about a need to impeach Bush because if he wasn&#8217;t impeached, then who possibly would be.&#8221;<\/i><\/p>\n<p>~ another IFP marcher<\/p>\n<p>This writer was also present. What the mayor said directly to me led me to believe that he was in support of the impeachment of President Bush. I removed one of the ImpeachforPeace buttons off of my shirt and handed it to him. He promptly pinned it to his shirt. I went and found a member with a camera to capture this monumental moment on disc. One of the photos taken appear at the top of this page. Our small ImpeachforPeace.org button can be seen between the &#8220;Obama&#8221; and &#8220;Ellison&#8221; stickers on the mayor&#8217;s shirt.<\/p>\n<p>We sent the following letter to the mayor in response to the e-mail issued from his Chief of Staff&#8217;s e-mail account. It is important to note that we decided at our weekly meeting the following Tuesday night that with the veracity of our reporting and thus the integrity of our organization in question, we could not afford to keep this e-mail exchange &#8216;close to the vest&#8217;:<\/p>\n<p><i>From: Mikael Rudolph<br \/>\n&#8220;\u00a8Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2007 10:26 PM<br \/>\n&#8220;\u00a8To: R.T. Rybak<br \/>\n&#8220;\u00a8Cc: Smith, Tina F.<br \/>\n&#8220;\u00a8Subject: Impeachment<\/p>\n<p>Honorable Mayor R.T. Rybak,<\/p>\n<p>(cc: Ms. Tina Smith, the leadership of IFP and two esteemed local peace leaders &#8216;in the loop&#8217;. It is our intent to keep this circle closed if at all possible.)<\/p>\n<p>We would like to discuss with you at your earliest convenience a matter of extreme importance to our organization and its relationship with your offices.<\/p>\n<p>In the staging area in advance of the May Day Parade last Sunday six of us involved with ImpeachforPeace.org were readying ourselves to march in our orange &#8220;Gitmo detainee&#8221; jumpsuits with our &#8220;IMPEACHFORPEACE.ORG&#8221; banner when you were gracious enough to approach us to discuss our mission. Three representatives from Amnesty International in yellow suits and one dressed as the iconic &#8220;crucified\/wired stress position detainee&#8221; were also assembling with us, expanding our group to ten members.<\/p>\n<p>Without prompting from anyone in our group that we are aware of, you shared with us that you had previously been opposed to the impeachment of President Bush and Vice President Cheney as a &#8220;political distraction&#8221; but that after hearing Daniel Ellsberg speak on the topic you and your wife had discussed impeachment on the drive home and had come to the conclusion together that impeachment was the proper remedy for the situation at hand.<\/p>\n<p>Mikael Rudolph handed you one of our &#8220;IMPEACHFORPEACE.ORG&#8221; buttons, which you promptly put on your shirt. Then as you were speaking with Jodin Morey, D.L. Corvin took some photographs. If you click on the photo found here to enlarge it:<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/?p=1652, the IFP button, although small, is clearly seen between the &#8220;Ellison&#8221; and &#8220;Obama&#8221; stickers on your shirt.<\/p>\n<p>At least four of our members have confirmed that they heard you express your support for impeachment efforts and we are waiting to hear from the others who were present.<\/p>\n<p>Mr. Corvin wrote the article linked above with the help of Natalie Morrison about our entire MayDay experience. Ms. Morrison was tabling at Powderhorn Park during the parade and assisted with that perspective on the event for the article.<\/p>\n<p>As soon as the article was finished and we had photographs in hand, we posted the article on our webite<\/p>\n<p>http:\/\/impeachforpeace.org<br \/>\nand sent out an e-mail promoting it. It was also forwarded to reddit, Digg, Buzzflash and other independent information distribution sites, just as we do with any other significant impeachment-related article. For example, here is the article we posted after our meeting with Rep. Keith Ellison last month: http:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/?p=1361<\/p>\n<p>We were greatly disheartened and dismayed when the following e-mail was forwarded to us as apparently issued from your offices. If it was not generated from your offices, please let us know:<\/p>\n<p>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<br \/>\nDate: Fri, 11 May 2007 17:12:29 -0500<br \/>\nFrom: &#8220;Smith, Tina F.&#8221;<br \/>\nSubject: EMAIL FROM MAYOR R.T. RYBAK:<br \/>\nInaccurate email<\/p>\n<p>EMAIL ON BEHALF OF MAYOR R.T. RYBAK<\/p>\n<p>Dear Friends and Colleagues:<\/p>\n<p>There are emails circulating that inaccurately say that I support<br \/>\nimpeachment of the President.<br \/>\nThis is not true.<br \/>\nI have asked them to<br \/>\nstop, but they have continued.<br \/>\nIf you get one of these emails, please<br \/>\nhelp me set the record straight.<\/p>\n<p>I have been deeply opposed to the War in Iraq from the beginning, and I<br \/>\nremain so. We must demand accountability from the President and this<br \/>\nadministration.<br \/>\nI believe, however, the impeachment process would be a<br \/>\ndistraction from the crucial work of holding this administration<br \/>\naccountable.<\/p>\n<p>Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any additional<br \/>\nquestions about this issue and my position.<\/p>\n<p>Thank you,<br \/>\nR.T. Rybak<br \/>\nMinneapolis Mayor<\/p>\n<p>Email sent by:<\/p>\n<p>Tina Smith &#8211; Chief of Staff<br \/>\nOffice of Mayor R.T. Rybak<br \/>\nSuite 331, CIty Hall<br \/>\n350 South Fifth Street<br \/>\nMinneapolis, MN<br \/>\n55415<br \/>\n612-673-2100<br \/>\n~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~<\/p>\n<p>Again, many of our members present heard you express your support for impeachment. This e-mail represents either an equivocation on your part or simply crossed signals or crossed purposes within your offices. We understand that sometimes it is necessary politically to hold separate personal and public stances on issues, but when this opinion was spoken publicly to our group and offered to us so freely, we felt it was our right and responsibility to share it broadly.<\/p>\n<p>We are not interested in causing undue controversy, nor do we have any interest whatsoever in doing you political harm. We know you to be a strong political ally in opposition to the war as well as in holding the Bush Administration accountable and reversing their disastrous policies whose effects are felt globally, nationally and locally.<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, we are a non-partisan citizen-run organization dedicated to holding public officials accountable for their words as well as their actions. Most importantly to us, over the past year and a half since our inception, we have worked very hard to earn the trust and respect of fellow activists and peace and justice activism organizations around the nation and locally as well as the trust and respect of the media as a reliable source for impeachment-related news. This article is a continuation of that commitment.<\/p>\n<p>As personal witnesses to and as being integral parts of the conversation Mr. Corvin wrote about we stand behind Mr. Corvin&#8217;s article unequivocally and will not retract or revise it in any way. If further challenges to its veracity were to be put forth by your offices we would be forced to make a public statement on behalf of its veracity that may appear to be in direct contradiction to the statements in the e-mail quoted above.<\/p>\n<p>We strongly believe that impeachment is the very &#8220;crucial work of holding this administration accountable&#8221; which the e-mail from your offices mentions and we welcome your unwavering support of these efforts as a moral imperative over and above all that which may fleetingly and speciously appear to be politically expedient and advantageous.<\/p>\n<p>We also strongly believe that you will be pleasantly surprised to find that the great majority of Minneapolis residents agree that impeachment is warranted and that a stand by you calling for impeachment would gain you deep local respect and strengthen your base. Rep. Ellison&#8217;s stalwart support of the impeachment movement throughout his successful campaign should be convincing evidence of this truth. Then-candidate Ellison spoke at our October 5th, &#8217;06 impeachment rally in Loring Park and the audio that we recorded was sent all over the web. We notified ImpeachPAC about candidate Ellison&#8217;s impeachment stand, which led directly to a $1,000.00 campaign contribution from them.<\/p>\n<p>It would be our great preference to let this potentially divisive issue dissipate on its own from this point forward and to work together with your offices and the offices of the City Council to join those of Representative Keith Ellison &#8211; who we are already working with &#8211; toward hosting a Minneapolis Town Hall meeting on the topic of the relative merits of the impeachment of Vice President Dick Cheney and President George W. Bush as soon as it can be scheduled. This can be hosted with or without any committed stand on impeachment from those hosting.<\/p>\n<p>We have asked Trayshana of Rep. Ellison&#8217;s office to contact your offices in this regard and we are also in touch with representatives of known impeachment proponent Garrison Keillor and other national names through connections with other impeachment groups around the nation.<\/p>\n<p>We await your reply and hope to hear from your offices before our weekly Tuesday night meeting on May 15th so that we can decide as a group how to proceed in full knowledge of your interests in this matter.<\/p>\n<p>Again, we ask all parties to hold this &#8216;close to the vest&#8217; out of respect for everyone involved. Thank you all for honoring this desire.<\/p>\n<p>Respectfully,<\/p>\n<p>Mikael Rudolph<br \/>\nJodin Morey<\/p>\n<p>Co-Founders: ImpeachforPeace.org<br \/>\nOrganizers: Minneapolis Chapter of www.WorldCantWait.org<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Mayor Rybak responded 19 minutes later:<\/p>\n<p><i><br \/>\nFrom: &#8220;Rybak, R.T.&#8221;<br \/>\nDate: May 13, 2007 10:45:01 PM CDT<br \/>\nTo: &#8220;Mikael Rudolph&#8221;<br \/>\nCc: &#8220;Smith, Tina F.&#8221;<br \/>\nSubject: RE: Impeachment<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Thank you Mikael.<br \/>\nI really appreciate you taking the time to write this very well thought out email.<br \/>\nYou are correct I did approach your group &#8212;I wanted to thank you for protesting the war and for raising issues regarding Gitmo&#8212;and I did put on a button.<\/p>\n<p>However the original email overstated my conversation.<br \/>\n(I copied my original response to your email below).<br \/>\nI was also disappointed that after I corrected the email, I received no response and instead additional emails were circulated that not only repeated that statement but also said I agreed to cohost a forum, which I did not.<\/p>\n<p>We came away from that conversation with different understanding but in any case, I deeply appreciate you raising these issues, hope we can continue to work together to stop the war and only ask you not include me as someone who supports impeachment.<\/p>\n<p>R.T.<br \/>\nP.S.<br \/>\nYou wrote this to my city email account.<br \/>\nI think technically this is not city business so it would be better to communicate to me about this at my private account, which is [withheld by request].<br \/>\n(I don&#8217;t give that out much because I can&#8217;t process a lot of emails there so please don&#8217;t circulate that widely.)<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s the oringal email I wrote in response:<br \/>\nPaul: It was a pleasure meeting you and the group at May Day. Thank you for raising the issues of the unjust war and I was especially appreciative of your raising attention to mistreatment of detainees, which I feel is deeply wrong. I appreciated our conversation, but I think your post here overstates my feelings on this. I do not at this point support Impeachment. I am going to keep my focus right now on running the city, and in my political life, being a strong voice against the war and electing a new President.<br \/>\nAs I said when we talked at May Day, I have considered Impeachment a major distraction. I feel President Bush has grossly violated civil liberties, has taken the country for war over false pretenses, politicized the judicial branch of government and done many other things. But wrong as all this has been, until recently I was strongly against Impeachment because I felt it was a major distraction from the urgent work we have to do right now, which is to stop the war and elect a very different kind of President. I also felt that Impeachment now, following the charade that took place with President Clinton, would mean that every time there was a Congress that was of the other party of the President, we could end up with Impeachment, which I feel is a very extreme action.<br \/>\nThen I told you about the discussion I had with Daniel Ellsberg. We were at an event in St. Paul and he asked me if I was going to join Mayor Rocky Anderson of Salt Lake City in calling for Impeachment. I repeated pretty much what I wrote in the paragraph above. He then made a very strong case that Impeachment is also about precedent and if we did not issue articles of Impeachment now, when should we? I told you that that night on the ride home I talked about this with my wife that for the first time I saw a good argument to actually do that, but I was still undecided. I am still very concerned about the precedent of repeated Impeachments, I am extremely concerned about an Impeachment that could lead to President Cheney, and I still worry about the distraction.<br \/>\nMy focus will continue to be to stop the war and elect a new President. I would ask you not to state that I am for Impeachment. I have not yet made that judgment. I do hope we can both continue to work for ways to change the very serious problems in our country right now.<br \/>\nStay in touch<br \/>\nR.T.<\/p>\n<p>We of IFP do not know of the &#8216;Paul&#8217; refered to above. We assume the mayor was responding to another activist on this same topic &#8211; perhaps the one who first contacted him about this article. We also have had no interaction with the mayor, by e-mail or otherwise since May Day, other than the e-mails included here.<\/p>\n<p>As stated in our e-mail to Mayor Rybak and Ms. Smith, we understand that sometimes it is necessary politically to hold separate personal and public stances on issues, but at least four separate members of our group clearly heard the mayor express support for impeachment during a public gathering. When this support for our mission was expressed publicly and offered to us so freely, we felt it was our right and responsibility to share it broadly.<\/p>\n<p>We will accept that the Mayor intended to communicate an agreement in principle with us that a compelling argument in favor of impeachment can be made and that the Bush Administration should be held acountable for the horrendous damage they have wrought. We also accept, however that the Mayor wants it known that he does not support impeachment at this time.<\/p>\n<p>We hold out strong hope that the Mayor will continue to weigh the fleeting, specious political cost of supporting impeachment against the national, historical cost of allowing this criminality to go unchecked by our top executives as apparently communicated to him so eloquently by Daniel Ellsberg.<\/p>\n<p>Where we must part ways is that we of ImpeachforPeace.org have come to the conclusion that accountability should and must rightly come through impeachment and that we are committed to setting aside personal and professional goals at any risk to see that this takes place in the best interests of our once and future great nation.<\/p>\n<p>Maybe &#8211; at its core &#8211; that is the difference between politicians and activists. We activists have chosen to position ourselves to be able to afford to act directly on principle upon a moral imperative without feeling limited by having to run our public stance through the filter of weighing the personal political ramifications.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>~ Jodin Morey speaking with Mayor Rybak on May Day by Mikael Rudolph of ImpeachforPeace.org In an article published by our organization on Monday, May 7th, the day after the May Day parade: Minneapolis Mayor R.T. 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