{"id":5929,"date":"2009-01-20T19:56:41","date_gmt":"2009-01-21T01:56:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/impeach_bush_blog\/?p=5929"},"modified":"2021-05-20T19:40:34","modified_gmt":"2021-05-21T01:40:34","slug":"bush-viewed-as-war-criminal-worldwide-much-like-pinochet","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/2009\/01\/bush-viewed-as-war-criminal-worldwide-much-like-pinochet\/","title":{"rendered":"Bush Viewed as War Criminal Worldwide Much Like Pinochet"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img decoding=\"async\" style='float: left; margin: 0px 15px 15px 0px; width: 250px;' src=\"https:\/\/impeachforpeace.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2009\/01\/bushfrown20081205-1.thumbnail.jpg\" alt=\"bushfrown20081205-1.jpg\" align= \"left\"\/>therawstory<br \/>\nTurley: Most people abroad will view Bush as a war criminal<br \/>\nDavid Edwards and Muriel Kane<br \/>\n<br \/>\nBarack Obama has now been inaugurated as president, and the fear expressed by MSNBC&#8217;s Rachel Maddow on Monday night that George Bush might issue last-minute pardons of administration officials involved in torture, possibly including himself, has not come to pass.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nHowever, the torture issue itself is not going to go away so easily. As Maddow also noted, &#8220;The calls for a reckoning are growing by the day &#8212; and not just from progressives outside the government.&#8221;<br \/>\n<br \/>\n&#8220;Do you think that Obama and his team realized how hot an issue this would become and would stay?&#8221; Maddow asked Constitutional law professor Jonathan Turley.<br \/>\n<br \/>\n&#8220;I don&#8217;t think so,&#8221; Turley replied. &#8220;I don&#8217;t think the people in that building thought it,&#8221; he added, pointing to the Capitol. &#8220;I mean, that building is where principles go to die. And they haven&#8217;t, because there&#8217;s been this groundswell of people saying, &#8216;Look, you might be able to get away with an electronic surveillance program and say that&#8217;s just a crime we&#8217;re not going to allow to be prosecuted, but these are war crimes., these are a special category.'&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think that the new Barack Obama, the President Obama, is going to find it very hard to go round the world and to say that we&#8217;re now again the nation of rules of law,&#8221; Turley suggested, &#8220;if the first act he commits as president is to talk away from a confirmed war crime.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Are we literally looking at a possibility,&#8221; Maddow asked, &#8220;where administration officials from this [previous] administration cannot travel abroad to the other 145 countries that have signed the torture treaty because they might get arrested?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Most certainly,&#8221; Turley replied. &#8220;The status of George Bush is not that different from Augusto Pinochet. They&#8217;ve both been accused of running a torture program. And outside this country, there&#8217;s not this ambiguity about what to do with a war crime. &#8230; Most people abroad are going to view you not as former President George Bush, they&#8217;re going to view you as a current war criminal.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;And they&#8217;re going to view us as an outlaw regime for not arresting him on our own soil,&#8221; Maddow remarked.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think so, unfortunately,&#8221; Turley agreed. &#8220;A lot&#8217;s at stake.&#8221;<br \/>\n<br \/>\n<embed <img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" style='float: left; margin: 0px 15px 15px 0px; width: 250px;' src=\"http:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20100309154438\/http:\/\/216.87.173.33\/fvp\/flvplayer.swf\" width=\"480\" height=\"380\" bgcolor=\"#FFFFFF\" type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" pluginspage=\"http:\/\/www.macromedia.com\/go\/getflashplayer\" flashvars=\"image=http:\/\/216.87.173.33\/media\/2009\/0901\/msnbc_maddow_turley_pardons_090119a.jpg&#038;file=http:\/\/216.87.173.33\/media\/2009\/0901\/msnbc_maddow_turley_pardons_090119a.flv&#038;logo=http:\/\/www.rawprint.com\/fvp\/rsvidlogo04.png&#038;link=http:\/\/www.rawstory.com&#038;autostart=false&#038;lightcolor=0x557722&#038;backcolor=0x000000&#038;frontcolor=0xCCCCCC&#038;showicons=false\"\/><\/p>\n<p>\n(Source)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>therawstory Turley: Most people abroad will view Bush as a war criminal David Edwards and Muriel Kane Barack Obama has now been inaugurated as president, and the fear expressed by MSNBC&#8217;s Rachel Maddow on Monday night that George Bush might issue last-minute pardons of administration officials involved in torture, possibly including himself, has not come&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":5928,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"_kad_post_classname":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[122,4],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-5929","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-bush_era","category-impeachment-news"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.7 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Bush Viewed as War Criminal Worldwide Much Like Pinochet &#8226; Impeach for Peace<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Citizen&#039;s impeach strategy. 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