Pressure Minneapolis City Council to Impeach
As a follow-up to our wildly successful impeachment Town Hall meeting with Minneapolis City Council Members Cam Gordon and Elizabeth Glidden and Council Member Remington coming out for impeachment, we’re calling on citizens to do three things:
* Call your Council Member
* Attend the City Council Meetings
* Flyer neighborhoods to spread the word (on car windows, doors, etc). Here’s the flyer (If you hand out the flyer in your neighborhood, circle the councilmember who represents your neighborhood so folks know who represents them.)
Attend the Minneapolis City Council Meetings with impeachment signs and shirts to show support. According to sources on the Minneapolis City Council. The idea is to be a visual advertisement of the call on them to impeach!
Here is the contact info for city council members:
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/council/
WARD 1, Paul Ostrow, 612-673-2201, paul.ostrow@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 2, Cam Gordon, 612-673-2202, cam.Gordon@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 3, Diane Hofstede, 612-673-2203,
diane.hofstede@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 4, Barbara Johnson, 612-673-2204,
barbara.johnson@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 5, Don Samuels, 612-673-2205, don.samuels@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 6, Robert Lilligren, 612-673-2206,
robert.lilligren@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 7, Lisa Goodman, 612-673-2207,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-goodman.asp
WARD 8, Elizabeth Glidden, 612-673-2208,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-glidden.asp
WARD 9, Gary Shiff, 612-673-2209,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-schiff.asp
WARD 10, Ralph Remington, 612-673-2210,
ralph.remington@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 11, Scott Benson, 612-673-2211,
scott.benson@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 12, Sandy Colvin Ray, 612-673-2212,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-roy.asp
WARD 13, Betsy Hodges, 612-673-2213,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-hodges.asp
Reasons for impeachment:
http://impeachforpeace.org/evidence/
A copy of the impeachment resolution we’re suggesting is here:
http://impeachforpeace.org/impeach_bush_blog/?p=2195
Is Bush/Cheney Impeachment a City Council’s Job?
- City Council members take an oath of office promising to “protect and defend the Constitution from enemies foreign and domestic. They don’t take an oath to fix potholes. If the Constitution is in danger then their primary duty is to defend it.
- Cities and towns routinely send petitions to Congress for all kinds of requests. This is allowed under Clause 3, Rule XII, Section 819, of the Rules of the House of Representatives. This clause is routinely used to accept petitions from cities, and memorials from states, all across America.
Is Impeachment a Local Issue?
- If a federal action has a significant negative impact on this city, then it is appropriate for this city to defend itself.
- Citizens from this city may be sent, or have been sent, to Iraq to fight in an illegal war.
- Tax funds from this city that could have been spent locally have been spent in Iraq for war. Tax money from this city has been wasted in no-bid contracts with companies like Halliburton. Yet this city can barely afford the emergency services, libraries, and schools that we need.
- The State National Guard should be available to protect this city from floods or other disasters. But instead, this administration has sent them to Iraq.
For details, contact Jodin Morey of Impeach for Peace:
612-328-1451 or use our contact page:
http://impeachforpeace.org/comments.htm
Pressure Minneapolis City Council to Impeach, Friday June 19th…
As a follow-up to our wildly successful impeachment Town Hall meeting with Minneapolis City Council Members Cam Gordon and Elizabeth Glidden, we’re attending the Minneapolis City Council Meeting Friday, June 29th! ImpeachForPeace.org is asking you to …
Trackback by www.buzzflash.net — June 27, 2007 @ 3:30 am
Remember, for now we are not going to the council meeting to protest, but to DEMONSTRATE our interest in their acting on impeachment and accountablitiy.
Comment by Daniel I. Fearn — June 28, 2007 @ 1:45 am
Remember, for now we are not going to the council meeting to protest, but to DEMONSTRATE our interest in their acting on impeachment and accountablitiy.
Comment by Daniel I. Fearn — June 28, 2007
I’m glad you’re trying to hold the people in the Bush administration accountable for what they’ve done.
Peace,
Gaius
Comment by Gaius Poehler — June 29, 2007 @ 3:26 pm
July 4, 2007
A Patriot’s Message
The hammer falls on the Constitution of the United States of America. Our freedom and Democracy, our sovereignty as a nation is coming to an end.
The politically appointed neoconservatives in Justice sneer at Habeas Corpus; Geneva Convention; worker, consumer and investor protection; education; affirmative action; individual rights and “entitlements†like Social Security and health care.
The corporate neo-con conspirators (Establishment) have their own agenda of a New World Order; W.T.O; N.A.F.T.A; immigration; globalization and “free tradeâ€; military seizure of foreign oil fields; employing a private army of mercenaries and propagandist; “dealing†with Afghanistan Opium drug lords harboring Osama Bin Laden and financing Al Qaeda.
The ideal corporate model is “Communism†where individual freedom and democracy are mute. The board of directors rule. The corporate neo-cons hate our regulatory government, Constitution and Individual Rights.
Our Federal Government is purposely bankrupt by war/trade debt and the ideal corporate nation, China, are carrying trillions of dollars of our debt. Communist China and their junior corporate American partner’s technically own theâ€U.S.A†resulting in “Globalization†and loss of sovereignty. Mission accomplished. The surge strategy is not to win the war but to pump oil and further indebt U.S.A to Communist China. Patriots, sign on! Impeach Bush, Cheney and nullify their Supreme Court appointments!
Comment by Lawrence Baker — July 11, 2007 @ 6:08 pm
Let us not waste any more money on fruitless war on Iraq. If you have to spend just bomb the Al Queda centers at North West Pakistan/Afghan borders to destroy the original root there.
Comment by Bimal Kundu — July 17, 2007 @ 10:21 am
I understand the argument of the time and negative energy it would take to impeach both the President and Vice President, but the people of the United States of America need to feel that criminals will be dealt with. Otherwise, the loss of heart in America will take a lot longer to heal. Trust in our system is at stake.
Comment by Nancy Stallings — July 26, 2007 @ 1:54 pm
Heal America–Impeach Bush and Cheney NOW.
Comment by jeffrey ellenberger — August 28, 2007 @ 11:30 pm
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Pingback by Impeach Bush For Peace » Minneapolis City Council Member Remington exhorts colleagues to pass impeachment resolution — September 6, 2007 @ 10:55 pm
I agree with you all. Lets all hold hands and sing “Kumbya”. Impeaching these grmiy old capitalists will really solve all our problems and chase away those nice Muslims who will just retreat to their caves and leave us alone once those neoconservatives are out of office. And my goodness, we treated those boys so poorly in those nasty prison camps. We didn’t even give them cable TV! That Bush is such a big fat liar. All he cares about is all his rich friends. What about me? What do I get? I should have some of that money all those fat cats have. After all, isn’t that what the government is for? OK – so I got laid off. But hey – I was in a union, so I must be entitled to something? I also think the government should cover my health care also. Aren’t I entitled to that? Now that I think of it – the government should pay for my cable so I can blog all day about the DEMON – SATAN Bush. Boy, if Al Gore was president we would have no enemies and would have never got into this ishy war.
Comment by Richard Weere — September 13, 2007 @ 3:59 pm
Richard,
If you would devote as much time to research as you do to sarcasm, you would come to understand and agree with how dire the need is to bring justice to this corrupt Administration and to restore our our Constitution from the preemptive and comprehensive assault on it by the Bush Administration.
But you would rather write cute and pithy comments without any substance, links, facts, rebuttal or evidence of being informed on this site. Of course you would. That is easier.
It is so much easier to let propagandist Bill O’Reilly do your thinking for you, isn’t it?
Fine.
Go back to sleep.
BTW… I don’t have cable, nor do I get any of my news from television.
Comment by Mikael — September 13, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
Mikael
No cable? Perhaps you are getting your information from the Star & Tribune? That would explain your position of anger. Impeachment would do nothing but put the Dow into a tailspin and further divide this nation (as folks like us pay substantial taxes and personally invest our money we are concerned about these things). Please present some examples of how you personally or someone you know has had their civil rights infringed upon becasue of this adminstration’s policy? Perhaps if you would channel your anger and need for revenge into positive energy we could move this country forward. I know this site is where you all can sing your woes and cast blame together – perhaps you should indulge in intelligent exchange instead of competing for your RT Rybak Honor Badges of Liberalism – you could actually do some good. “Pithy” comments? The only place you hear that is on The O’Rielly factor (hmmmm)
Peace
Comment by Rebecca Thompson — September 14, 2007 @ 10:57 am
Rebecca,
I get the Strib for the sports section, local news and the crossword puzzle. I don’t expect to get anything accurate, comprehensive or in depth from a Maclatchy-owned paper about national or political news. Nice try, but your attempt to pigeonhole me has failed miserably. I have spent 4-6 hours daily doing online research for the past three years. You?
I am far past anger and have no interest in revenge. That is you projecting your emotional patterns onto me. I have been motivated to action and have been taking action for the last two years. I am eager to engage in intelligent exchange whenever someone comments in such a way that challenges our list of impeachable offenses or our interpretation of the comprehensive assault being waged on our Constitutional liberties and freedoms by the Bush Administration. Please go to http://www.impeachforpeace.org/evidence and pick out one of the charges against this Administration to dispute. We have made our case. It is up to you to challenge it if you can as a guest to this site. If you can’t dispute it, or choose not to attempt to challenge it we can safely assume that you found nothing questionable in our description of the impeachable crimes and misdemeanors committed by the Bush Administration.
Better yet, since you obviously have a prejudiced view of our organization, check out the new impeachment resolution that will be voted on by the National Lawyer’s Guild at their annual convention in November:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/26662
Are you aware of the effect Patriot Acts I & II, the Military Commissions Act and various Executive orders and signing statements have had on your Constitutional freedoms and protections? Apparently not, or you would be as up in arms about the damage that has been done as we are.
Did you know that Patrot Act I was finished PRIOR to 9/11? What does that tell you?
As an activist I have had my rights infringed a couple of times by the Minneapolis Police, who in one incident lied on the police report in saying that we had attached a banner to an overpass when we had held it the entire time because what we were doing was entirely legal. Other members of our group have had rights violated by the St. Paul police including one citizen who was threatened with arrest for pamphleteering on a public sidewalk – one of the oldest and most precious liberties that patriots have bled and died for over more than 230 years. Verizon Wireless gave access to my phone records to the Bush Administration along with other Verizon and AT&T customers.
Just this week Rev. Lennox Yearwood – founder and president of the Hip Hop Caucus was denied access to a public hearing on the Iraq War in Washington DC and was assaulted by six DC police officers who broke his leg while arresting Yearwood who is a member of the clergy and a devout pacifist. You didn’t see that in the Strib or any other aspect of the Corporate media, did you?
The Bush Administration was convicted in a federal court of violating the FISA laws and simply got the laws changed step by step leading to S. 1927 being signed into law right before the August recess. Political shapeshifter/Bushie lickspittle Norm Coleman and Amy Globalwar both voting your 4th Amendment rights against illegal search and seizure into the dust. Did you miss that? Do you miss those rights? Just because you have not yet been a victim of a violation of those rights doesn’t mean that you still have them. They are gone. Dead. History. They don’t exist. If you don’t understand that it is because you are uninformed.
Are you aware of the Jose’ Padilla case? That is one American citizen whose rights have been trampled upon. Are you aware of the Hamdan v. George W. Bush, Donald Rumsfeld, et al Supreme Court decision? Before you go off half-cocked again, please get yourself up to speed on how many examples of lawlessness the Bush Administration has been convicted of or details have been exposed of
I pay plenty of taxes, running three seperate businesses and employing an accountant to keep track of it all for me. I for one prioritize the future health of this democratic republic over my own selfish personal wealth.
I have posted dozens of accounts and examples of how the civil rights and liberties of others have been infringed upon across the nation during this time of diseased misleadership. There are about a dozen articles entitled: “Fascism is alive and well in ____________” that have been posted on this site. Simply google those words and ImpeachforPeace and they should come up for you.
As far as further dividing the nation, sometimes division is a healthy thing – such as when abolitionists refused to allow slavery to continue, when suffragettes insisted upon women getting the right to vote or the last time we found ourselves entangled in a military quagmire with no end in sight in Southeast Asia. This nation IS divided. Exposing and bringing to justice those who have caused this divide is best way to bring healing.
The nation is no longer divided about the Iraq War. The vast majority want it to be over and the vast majority understand that we were lied to in the build-up to it. The dividers are the ones in office insisting on keeping the war-profiteering and empire-building going.
If you dislike division, then political operative Karl Rove should be your worst enemy. His “divide and conquer” strategies have been the keystone of GOP national politics for the last seven years.
Regarding our and my opinion of and interaction with Mayor Rybak, please google impeachforpeace and Rybak and discover an exchange between our group and the mayor a few months ago. Your jaundiced view of our organization and the motivations behind our efforts cloud your perspective and bring you to inaccurate conclusions about who we are and why we are doing what we are doing.
We are first and foremost Constitutionalists intent of restoring the core values and principles the founding fathers of this great nation set forth and 230 years of blood, sweat and Congressional review have finely honed. We are most severely critical of those office holders who have sworn an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic”. Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld, Gonzales, et al are confirmed domestic enemies to the Constitution as are the many members of Congress who haveenabled, aided and abetted their crimes.
What does the Constitution mean to you? Do you feel it is worth protecting and restoring?
Comment by Mikael — September 14, 2007 @ 3:18 pm
Calm down Rebecca
Realize that all folks need somewhere to express their concerns. While I agree that these folks are a bit misguided – they are entitiled to their opinion. The left in this country (especially in this state) are in the attack mode on our country. At the pinnacle of their voodoo doll is a little fellow named Bush. Let’s face it Bush is a bit of a moron – but they are content on assailing the executive branch in the name of “civil liberties” to achieve this “revenge at any cost”. You are correct – these folks have no concern for what toll impeachment would take on this country. And they complain about the cost of the war?? The fact is – these folks want to impeach people who has not been found guilty of ANYTHING. To quote this website “No matter who we get to replace Bush, we’ll be showing those in power that anyone who breaks the law will be held accountable.” I think they left out the line “UNLESS IT IS A CLINTON” This site is more hypocritical Moveon.org spew. But as I said these socialists need somewhere to vent.
Peace to you also
Comment by Fred Woell — September 14, 2007 @ 3:40 pm
Fred/Rebecca,
[Once again we find our site being infested with "tag team" trolls who work in tandem pretending they don't know each other but just happen to show up on the same site on the same post on the same day offering the same critique without anything to dispute the truths on this site - no facts, no links, no counter-arguments of substance.. nothing... just regurgitated Bushie company lies]
Since when does insisting that those public office holders who have sworn an oath to “support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic” honor their oaths make someone part of “the left”, or a “socialist”?
Revenge? I have no interest in revenge. Just like Rebecca/Fred, you are exhibiting a psychological tendency called “projection”. You assume that I am like you. You would want revenge. I don’t care about revenge nor am I motivated by it. That is your world, not mine.
Impeachment would bring the truth out to the masses through the corporate media who would have no choice but to acknowledge the crimes and misdemeanors of the Bush Administration as the top story every day.
Clinton’s entire four month impeachment process cost less than a single day of what it costs to maintain the Iraq occupation.
Clinton should have been impeached. But Clinton lied and nobody died.
The blood of hundreds of thousands of Americans, innocent Iraqis and innocent Afghanis is on Bush’s hands, yet he thirsts for more.
Bush’s lies and crimes have led to death and destruction and war without end:
Quoting an article by Phil Worden in the Bangor, Maine Daily News:
“U.S. Supreme Court Justice Robert Jackson, who served as the chief prosecutor of the major Nazi war criminals, called starting a war without cause the “supreme war crime” because all other war crimes flow from it. Under the UN Charter, which is a binding international treaty ratified by the United States, it is illegal to attack another nation except: 1) when authorized by the Security Council; or 2) when necessary for self-defense and then only for as long as necessary to get the matter to the Security Council.
The Security Council did unanimously pass Resolution 1441 that found Iraq in material breach of prior resolutions and warned of “severe consequences” if Iraq didn’t conform. But that resolution also explicitly stated that the Security Council remained seized of the issue and the United States assured the other members that Resolution 1441 did not authorize it to attack Iraq; the U.S. would have to return to the Security Council for another resolution before it could attack Iraq. In early 2003, the United States did return to the Security Council with a resolution that would authorize an attack on Iraq if passed. When it became clear that the proposed resolution could not muster a majority, the United States withdrew the resolution and attacked Iraq anyway. There is no crime more serious than illegally starting a war.”
And while Clinton lied about a blowjob, here is what American courts have said about the Bush/Cheney, etc. crimes:
Court Rulings on those “Revolutionary Changesâ€:
1). The Supreme Court in Rosul v. George W. Bush ruled detainees were being wrongfully imprisoned at Guantanmo Bay Detention Center in Cuba. These policies and actions were ruled unconstitutional and illegal – in violation of Amendments V, VI & VII. The use of torture, legally justified by Alberto Gonzales, John Yoo and others and henceforth condoned by Bush and Cheney is an additonal violation to the 8th Amendment.
2). The Supreme Court in Hamdan v. Donald Rumsfeld, George W. Bush, et al ruled that the Military Commissions instituted by the Bush
Administratoin violate the Universal Code of Military Justice and the Geneva Conventions to which we are bound by American law. The phrase “Geneva rules apply†in the final ruling made absolutely clear that war crimes had been and are being committed. Again, the Bush Administration’s actions were found by the highest court of the land to be illegal and unconstitutional – again violating Amendments V, VI & VII.
3). A Federal Court in NSA vs. ACLU found the NSA program of broad data-mining and warrantless wire-tapping of U.S. citizens illegal and unconstitutional – violating the Fourth Amendment, yet Congress just expanded and extended Bush’s rights to violate your 4th Amendment protections against illegal search and seizure in passing S. 1927with both Norm Coleman and Amy Klobuchar aiding , abetting and enabling these crimes with their ‘yay’ votes thus violating their oaths of office and rendering them unfit to continue as U.S. Senators from Minnesota.
One could argue that these court decisions reflect an appropriate tension between branches of our government and that these Administration policies and programs had temporarily pushed the envelope of questionable legality until the courts reined them in. However, each of these programs have continued in direct contravention of the law, spitting in the face of our nation’s highest courts, having their names and definitions changed or modified slightly like a gold ring in a pig’s snout.
Fred and Rebecca… you are supporting Fascism, Corporate Empire-Building and Lawless Governance. I cannot believe you are entirely sane.
Comment by Mikael — September 14, 2007 @ 4:06 pm
The following will be voted on at the NLG convention starting November 1 in Washington, DC, where Rep. John Conyers will be the keynote speaker.
Resolution on Impeachment of Bush and Cheney
Whereas George W. Bush and Richard B. Cheney:
http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/26662
Comment by Mikael — September 14, 2007 @ 4:29 pm
Tom:
If by some chance this posting makes it – we have sent out the word these guys screen and censor postings – keep going
[Actually we almost never do. Ed Hand is the only person ever banned from posting on IFP. To my knowledge we have never had to censor or delete any other person's posts in the nearly two years this site has been up.]
Comment by William Petersen — September 16, 2007 @ 9:44 am
William,
Your conspiracy theories notwithstanding…
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We have no interest in deleting the mindless comments by brownshirt, lockstep Bushie loyalists. On the contrary, the expressions from their digitally lobotomized, Limbaugh and O’Reilly addled ‘brains’ are further evidence supporting our cause.
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Comment by Mikael — September 16, 2007 @ 11:43 am
I spoke with Councilman Gary Schiff yesterday at a DFL Rally at Nokomis Park near my house. He is “ready to vote yes” on an impeachment resolution. Cam Gordon and Elizabeth Glidden attended the Town Hall meeting on Impeachment a few months back sponsored by the Green Party and both favored impeachment. Ralph Remington wrote an article published in the Downtown Journal strongly in favor of impeachment. Three more votes are needed.
Contact your City Council member and all others:
WARD 1, Paul Ostrow, 612-673-2201, paul.ostrow@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 2, Cam Gordon, 612-673-2202, cam.Gordon@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 3, Diane Hofstede, 612-673-2203,
diane.hofstede@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 4, Barbara Johnson, 612-673-2204,
barbara.johnson@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 5, Don Samuels, 612-673-2205, don.samuels@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 6, Robert Lilligren, 612-673-2206,
robert.lilligren@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 7, Lisa Goodman, 612-673-2207,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-goodman.asp
WARD 8, Elizabeth Glidden, 612-673-2208,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-glidden.asp
WARD 9, Gary Shiff, 612-673-2209,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-schiff.asp
WARD 10, Ralph Remington, 612-673-2210,
ralph.remington@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 11, Scott Benson, 612-673-2211,
scott.benson@ci.minneapolis.mn.us
WARD 12, Sandy Colvin Ray, 612-673-2212,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-roy.asp
WARD 13, Betsy Hodges, 612-673-2213,
http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/contact/email-form-hodges.asp
Comment by Mikael — September 16, 2007 @ 11:50 am
[Personal attack deleted]
Who cares about Minneapolis Council making a useless non-binding resolution? Does’t City Council have more important issues to deal with like lowering taxes, fixing roads, bridges and sewers, and taking care of the real day to day business of governing Minneapolis?
Or is it more vital that they grandstand against the evil Bushitler and make a Quixotic stand for impeachment?
Guess what? It doesn’t matter and it’s a waste council’s time and of Minneapolis taxpayers money.
What are you going to do this time next year when Frau Hillary becomes your next Führer?
Sorry…Kucinich isn’t going to win and neither is Obama. So which communist are you going to support in the primary? That’s where you should be spending your time and energy.
You think your rights are being violated now? You ain’t seen nothing until the Red Queen takes over.
[Personal attack deleted]
Comment by Ed Hand — December 21, 2007 @ 5:35 am
Oh, sorry. Since I’m used to getting up at 5AM for reveille and I now have cataracts, I was a little blurry so I made some typos and I corrected them:
[Personal attack deleted]
Who cares about Minneapolis Council making a useless non-binding resolution? Doesn’t City Council have more important issues to deal with like lowering taxes, fixing roads, bridges and sewers, and taking care of the real day to day business of governing Minneapolis?
Or is it more vital that they grandstand against the evil Bushitler and make a Quixotic stand for impeachment?
Guess what? It doesn’t matter and it’s a waste of council’s time and of Minneapolis taxpayers money.
What are you going to do this time next year when Frau Hillary becomes your next Führer?
Sorry…Kucinich isn’t going to win and neither is Obama. So which communist are you going to support in the primary? That’s where you should be spending your time and energy.
You think your rights are being violated now? You ain’t seen nothing until the Red Queen takes over.
[Personal attack deleted]
[Personal attack deleted]
http://www.thepeoplescube,com
Comment by Ed Hand — December 21, 2007 @ 7:30 am
[Personal attack deleted]
What’s ignorant about wanting your city council to be concerned with city government?
This impeachment business is certainly none of theirs and I’m pretty damn sure Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi don’t want to hear it either. That’s the friggin’ truth. You can’t deny that reality but knowing your pretzel logic, most certainly, you will.
Why can’t the Democratic House get more responsible congresspersons in positions of power?
Get rid of Pelosi and put in somebody for Speaker like Alcee Hastings or William Jefferson.
Hell, Dennis Kucinich. Why not? He’d be never ending entertainment, with all that UFO & Shirley MacLaine stuff and that. Heck, I believe in UFOs, [Personal attack deleted].
It’s such a damn shame Krissy Keefer didn’t beat Pelosi.
Harry Reid? C’mon, The Lion of the Senate, Teddy Kennedy, awaits the call…well, last call anyhow.
[Personal attack deleted]
[Personal attack deleted]
Ed Hand
http://www.thepeoplescube,com
Comment by Ed Hand — December 21, 2007 @ 6:24 pm
Mr. Hand,
We are happy to have dissenting opinions posted on our site, but if you continue to take pot shots and make personal attacks on individuals rather than discussing the issues, we will be forced to remove your posting privileges permanently in the name of raising the level of discourse.
This will be your only warning.
Mikael Rudolph
CoFounder: http://www.ImpeachforPeace.org
Comment by Mikael — December 21, 2007 @ 9:04 pm
Ah, now I see! No “personal attacks” unless of course it is against Bush or anyone else that is actually trying to protect this country from the people who are sworn to kill me, you, your kids…. For the life of me, I will never understand why you and your group wish to follow the exact same policies that our good pals UBL, Zwahirri (the real force behind Al Queda), and other such peace loving folks such as Zarquawi and company. These “people” have openly declared what their game plan is, what they wish and expect this country to do, and the liberals in this country happily salute, and bend over and pull your pants down.
Comment by Wesley Cannon — December 21, 2007 @ 10:12 pm
Mr. Cannon,
Personal attacks against public figures are universally accepted. That is part of the cost of fame. Personal attacks against individuals are almost universally refused by editors of integrity and can be the basis of slander lawsuits – especially if they continue after being asked to desist. The legal definition of continued unwelcome personal communication or contact is ‘harassment’.
We are happy to post opinions such as yours. YOUR OPINIONS expressed above make us look so reasonable, sane, intelligent and informed by comparison!
Thanks! Keep on visiting and boosting our Alexa rating!!
Mikael
Comment by Mikael — December 21, 2007 @ 10:27 pm
[Mr. Hand was warned that personal attacks, if continued, would lead to his being banned from posting on this website. His response was to attempt to post even more egregious and slanderous lies and accusations of illegal behavior against individual members of IFP that had no basis in truth. In the interest of raising the level of public discourse, his posting privileges have been suspended indefinitely by ImpeachforPeace.org.]
Comment by Ed Hand — December 22, 2007 @ 6:59 am
“We are happy to post opinions such as yours. YOUR OPINIONS expressed above make us look so reasonable, sane, intelligent and informed by comparison!”
So, going along with the openly stated strategy of Bin Laden, Zwahirri et al makes your group seem reasonable, sane, and intelligent? Well, I guess so if you wish to see this country being attacked, to lose. It is so sad. I remember a time when Republicans and Democrats fought with each other as much as we do now. However, then it was about taxes, education, construction, civil rights (which in case you don’t remember, it was the democrats that mostly supported segregation etc.), and even defense spending. But politics basically ended at the water’s edge. We could say that every major war the US has been in this past century was a “democrat” war. Both world wars, Korea, and Vietnam all began under a democratic president. Did we see a Republican Speaker of the House going to any of those countries, essentially trying to engage in their own foreign policy? Did you see a lot of Republican senators openly saying “We have lost this war?” Of course we know about all those young wild republicans taking to the streets, calling their president a liar and a murderer. Truth be told, you and your friends are the most hypocritical bunch I have ever seen. Where was the protest when Clinton was bombing Bosnia? Why, we didn’t even have the UN resolutions to back us up. I guess “no blood for goulash” has quite the same ring to it? For that matter, why were you not protesting in the streets when Clinton was murdering all those poor Iraqis with his bombs and missiles when clearly their were no WMD’s? Even Vietnam…. there were essentially no protest to speak of while it was a democrat war, only after Nixon came in did the protest movement really get into high gear… and he was one of the few presidents who actually did fulfill his promise to get us out of Nam. Now clearly I am not defending Nixon in all of his actions, but I find it sad that in many ways, the war got dumped on him, when he inherited the war from 2 democrat presidents.
Impeach Bush? Why, I have no doubt in my mind that 50 years from now, he will be looked back on and considered a president that stood firm and played the major role in keeping this country safe and starting to role back terror. I have little doubt that in 4 or 5 years, you will not even recognize Iraq as it will be one of the most stable countries in the middle east, and the only arabic one with democracy, though hopefully not one like our own….
Comment by Wesley Cannon — December 25, 2007 @ 8:34 pm
BTW, for all the “evidence” sited, we did not need any further resolutions from the UN, not that we didn’t have plenty of them. For we had the cease fire agreement in Safwan, where Saddam agreed to a string of demands, and he failed to live up to those and so the US has been well within it’s rights to go back into Iraq for the past decade. In case there is any doubt, I favored going back into Iraq even when Clinton was president. I am tickled that Bush at least had the sense to do what should have been done long ago. I understand why his father agreed to not topple Iraq at the time, it was not the stated goal of the Gulf War. But Iraq did not abide by the cease fire terms, so I see this as nothing more than enforcing those terms. Saddam bluffed, Bush called his hand.
Comment by Wesley Cannon — December 25, 2007 @ 8:43 pm
We need money for AIDS research and free condoms so we can celibrate our diversity.
Comment by Gash — December 29, 2007 @ 4:09 pm
RE #26
“in 4 or 5 years, you will not even recognize Iraq as it will be one of the most stable countries in the middle east, and the only arabic one with democracy”
Turkey is a democracy.
Comment by Mikael — January 14, 2008 @ 10:33 am
Turkey is a democracy.
????
Seljuk Turks are not Arabic nor is Turkey considered part of The Middle East. It’s always been considered part of Europe.
How sad.
Comment by Chubby Huggs — January 16, 2008 @ 5:11 am
Ron Paul will free us all!
Comment by Ron Paul — January 18, 2008 @ 9:24 pm