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November 24, 2007

New Poll: 55% Say Bush is Impeachable

Filed under: Impeachment Progress News — Jodin Morey @ 4:21 pm

Audio of Randi Rhodes explaining results of this poll:

American Research Group — November 13, 2007
A total of 64% of American voters say that President George W. Bush has abused his powers as president [And a total of 55% say he's impeachable (34% from question 4 and 21% from question 3).]. Of the 64%, 14% (9% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 33% (21% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 53% (34% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Bush should be impeached and removed from office.
Question:
Which one of these four statements do you agree with about President Bush:

1. President Bush has not abused his powers as president.

2. President Bush has abused his powers as president, but the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment under the Constitution.

3. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution, but he should not be impeached.

4. President Bush has abused his powers as president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office.

11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4
All voters 36% 9% 21% 34%
Democrats (39%) 16% 9% 25% 50%
Republicans (35%) 64% 6% 12% 18%
Independents (26%) 29% 11% 26% 34%
Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time.

 

A total of 70% of American voters say that Vice President Dick Cheney has abused his powers as vice president. Of the 70%, 26% (18% of all voters) say the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment, 13% (9% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses, but he should not be impeached, and 61% (43% of all voters) say the abuses rise to the level of impeachable offenses and Mr. Cheney should be impeached and removed from office.

Question:
Which one of these four statements do you agree with about Vice President Cheney:

1. Vice President Cheney has not abused his powers as vice president.

2. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president, but the abuses are not serious enough to warrant impeachment under the Constitution.

3. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution, but he should not be impeached.

4. Vice President Cheney has abused his powers as vice president which rise to the level of impeachable offenses under the Constitution and he should be impeached and removed from office.

11/12/07 #1 #2 #3 #4
All voters 30% 18% 9% 43%
Democrats (39%) 6% 25% 6% 63%
Republicans (35%) 61% 12% 6% 21%
Independents (26%) 26% 16% 18% 39%
Based on 1,100 completed telephone interviews among a random sample of registered voters nationwide November 9-12, 2007. The theoretical margin of error is plus or minus 3 percentage points, 95% of the time.

 

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12 Comments

  1. here’s my take on it:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=qGwvSwOP7Ow
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=tMACzBomDK4

    Comment by peter anderson — November 25, 2007 @ 1:13 pm

  2. bush must be prosecuted and then be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which means, ‘hanging by the neck until he is dead’ or ‘death by firing squad’ for his high-treason, mass murder, and war criminality.

    Comment by nathan hale — November 25, 2007 @ 1:27 pm

  3. Please feel free to copy and fax to Pelosi. She is receiving requests for impeachment if signed with address and phone number on request. So make sure you have your name, address and phone placed at bottom. And don’t forget to write “thank you” before your vitals!

    To the Speaker of the House of Representatives:

    202-225-8259

    IMPEACH CHENEY AND BUSH NOW!

    FOR:

    1. Failing to protect the American people on 9/11/01 through appropriate military alertness after being briefed in writing of the terrorist dangers of airline hijacking by bin Laden on or about August 6, 2001.

    2. Suborning and facilitating escape of all members of the bin Laden family in the United States before being interrogated or briefed by the FBI in the immediate wake of 9/11/01 terrorist attack.

    3. Deceiving and intentionally terrifying the American people and the Congress with cherry-picked or otherwise false or falsified evidence of (a) weapons of mass destruction, (b) the imminent danger of nuclear, chemical and biological war, and (c) an Iraqi nexus with Al Qaida in order to engage in an aggressive, preemptive war with Iraq that it had planned BEFORE 9/11/01.

    4. Violating UN Charter by engaging in illegal, aggressive, and preemptive war with Iraq without a Security Council resolution.

    5. Feloniously disclosing and/or suborning the disclosure of the identity of a CIA operative and endangering the lives of her field contacts in order to politically destroy her husband who exposed and revealed the factual truth behind the Executive’s aberrant military justifications.

    6. Violating the UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights through (1) profiling, (2) arbitrary no-fly proscription lists, (3) torture, (4) rendition, (5) domestic voter fraud, (6) arbitrary and indefinite detention, (7) effectively denying and punishing 1st Amendment freedom of assembly (8) politicizing and packing federal public civil service and law enforcement employment, and (9) the permanent radioactive contamination and military destruction of Iraq.

    7. Violating the Geneva Convention and the Code of Military Justice by directly authorizing and inducing rendition, torture, and indefinite detention.

    8. Violating attorney-client privileges of 9/11 prisoners as a matter of policy.

    9. Violating the oath of office to faithfully execute duly enacted laws through the issuance of signing statements that pointedly disavow jurisdiction and emasculate enforcement.

    10. Intentionally failing to enforce federal bidding and contracting oversight laws and suborning the waste, mismanagement and fraudulent payment of hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars to defense, military and government contractors both at home and in Iraq and Afghanistan for the covertly intended purpose of bankrupting the federal treasury, the American economy, and its government.

    11. Willfully failing to warn, to protect, and then finally to reasonably, adequately, or substantively aid or favorably legislate for Hurricane Katrina victims during and years after the destruction of New Orleans in 2005 in order to facilitate the foreclosure and confiscation of the victims’ private property for the benefit of corporate political donors.

    12. Obstructing justice by first objecting and then failing to provide documents to the 9/11 Commission necessary in the determination of cause, liability, and culpability for murder of almost 3,000 American civilians.

    13. Obstructing justice by refusing to allow duly subpoenaed aides from testifying before Congress.

    14. Violating 4th Amendment and FISA by engaging in warrentless wiretaps.

    15. Violating 4th Amendment by ordering telecom companies to invade and accumulate personal records of millions of Americans and then supporting their immunity from federal prosecution and civil redress.

    16. First deceiving Congress to hastily enact and then signing the Patriot and Military Commissions Acts that abrogates the 800-year old Magna Carta right of habeas corpus for anyone arbitrarily designated an “illegal enemy combatant.”

    17. Knowingly engaging, legally immunizing and suborning Blackwater USA and International as contract mercenaries both before and after probable cause for the murder of numerous Iraqi civilians by the firm’s employees was found to exist.

    18. Ordering the war crime destruction in 2004 of the entire Iraqi city of Fallujah and much of its civilian population of 250,000 under the code name of “Phantom Fury” in revenge for the killing of 6 Blackwater employees wrongly placed in a hostile zone by their employer. Then targeting Al Jazeera in an attempt to obstruct justice by covering up this crime against humanity.

    19. Intentional failure to endorse the Kyoto Protocol which has exacerbated global warning to the “tipping point” that will seal the future deaths of millions including Americans.

    Thank you,

    Comment by Will — November 25, 2007 @ 1:57 pm

  4. The only way we will get all relevant information and evidence out about the criminality of this administration is if we have a investigation of all relevant facts. And the only way that will happen would be through the investigational powers granted to the congress in a impeachment hearing. So far the administration and the republican party have been able to hide behind state secrets and executive powers and the tired lies of “we did not know” or we are fighting a war on terrorism blah blah blah. But is is obvious common sense fact that these guys are just a bunch of self-centered lying, cheating, amoral, thieving hacks. The only reason I can come up with for the democrats and republicans to not want a impeachment hearing is if they would be shown to be complicit in many of the injustices being carried out by this administration. So to me it begins to look more and more like just what are our elected officials hiding?

    Comment by dan — November 25, 2007 @ 3:48 pm

  5. Impeach them both. the sooner the better for our country.

    Comment by amy — November 25, 2007 @ 5:17 pm

  6. But it’s all an exercise in futility; this impeachment talk is.

    Under the constitution, an impeachment is the responsibility of Congress.

    It was Congress that failed to properly investigate the events of 9/11.

    It was Congress that failed to properly investigate alleged facts to justify war in Iraq… in Afghanistan… and Vietnam… and many other lands.

    It was Congress that authorized war in every case.

    Do you really imagine that Congress will be more diligent in prosecuting a crime that will reveal Congress’ culpability in that crime… and a few hundred others?

    History has repeatedly demonstrated that to seek redress in forums (legislatures and courts), that are dominated by those who are accused or guilty, has generally been recognized as an exercise of futility… or of insanity.

    You cannot persuade those complicit in genocide to condemn themselves for it; much less to punish themselves for it.

    By advocating an impeachment of anyone will accomplish nothing more than a waste of resources of those who trust you; and an issuance of a free pass to those you accuse.

    There is an alternative: the same chosen by American Founders… it is past time that we take matters into our own hands; please see these introductory remarks: http://redressofgrievance.biz/

    Comment by Anthony Hargis — November 25, 2007 @ 5:31 pm

  7. Impeach Bush and Cheney and many others for their complicity in 911.

    Comment by For Dennis and Elizabeth Kucinich, Ron Paul and Ralph Nader — November 25, 2007 @ 6:05 pm

  8. If i remember correctly, the last president was impeached for lying about his personal life…

    Impeach Bush? All he did was tell the world Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and profiting from the war against terror. Surely the hundreds of lives sacrificed and plundered is for a good cause. What’s wrong with that?

    Comment by ivan — November 26, 2007 @ 2:21 am

  9. I’ve signed every document at every rally, and every webpage I could. I’ve donated money to any political candidate who supported impeachment or censure.

    Maybe America herself has become a lame duck.

    Comment by C — November 26, 2007 @ 10:23 am

  10. Will,

    first of all, if you are going to impeach Bush on #1 alone, you might as well try Clinton, Reno, and his entire former cabinet for ignoring Al Queda and Bin Ladin up until now.
    Second, your “list” contains only a few remotely impeachable offenses, if you can prove complicity on the part of Bush and not Congress, the State Dept, etc. The rest just seem like the personal, irrelevant angry issues I have been hearing Democrats complain about for years. (Not voting for Kyoto? Not admitting us into another “entangling alliance”? Unbelievable! Outrageous! Baby-killer!) I can’t even fathom why Kyoto and “future deaths of millions of people” would even be anywhere near this list. It is things like that that poison moderate and republican support for an action like this. Congressional Democrats and left-wing groups should have learned from the first FOUR TIMES they tried to vote to end the war. Screaming, ranting, and raving not only turns people off to your cause, but quickly polarizes them against you.

    Thanks for the continuing rants, sir.

    Comment by David — November 27, 2007 @ 7:29 am

  11. David,

    At some point your blind loyalist arguments in defense of these anti-constitutional thugs in the White House will have to mature beyond simply: “Blame Clinton” to be worth being considered potentially legitimate.

    Comment by Mikael — November 27, 2007 @ 11:10 am

  12. partisanship aside, don’t republican voters respect this nation and it’s laws enough to come clean, admit crimes were committed and see to it that they are punished and this sort of thing would never happen again? EVERY citizen should be outraged!

    Comment by eddie — November 30, 2007 @ 5:28 am

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• If we impeach Bush, we’ll get President Cheney!
The first impeachment resolution introduced by McKinney included Bush, Cheney, and Rice. Although, even if we only initially pursue Bush, initiating the impeachment process will lead to an investigation that will implicate lots of people in the Bush administration who are guilty of committing crimes, including Cheney.

No matter who we get to replace Bush, we’ll be showing those in power that anyone who breaks the law will be held accountable.

• Promoting impeachment will seem too “extreme.”
Demanding that crimes be investigated is NOT extreme. Some previous impeachment attempts were considered extreme because they were pursued for actions that didn't rise to the level of a Constitutional crisis, which is what the impeachment tool is meant to be used for. Nixon's impeachment, however, was bipartisan.

  • We should wait to impeach...
Wait to impeach? We've waited 3 or more years too long already. We had enough evidence to impeach years ago. Remember, an impeachment only means you have enough evidence to warrant a trial, just like an indictment. Our congress people didn't take an oath to bipartisanship. They took an oath to the Constitution. Besides which, our troops, Iraqi civilians, and our own civil liberties are all waiting for this.
 
• Before we impeach, we should get some legislation passed...
And with unconstitutional Presidential Signing Statements, veto power, and the power of "Commander in Chief" at his disposal, how do you think Congress is going to get anything accomplished without first impeaching Bush?

If your tire blows while you're driving, do you stop to fix it? Or do you continue driving on your rim because to stop would take too much time?

• It hurts the democracy to go through a presidential impeachment. And Bush is a lame duck anyway.
Holding government officials accountable for their actions strengthens our democracy. Letting lawlessness stand weakens it.

Sometimes reprimanding a child (president) doesn't make the family (Washington) a happy place. But you still have to do it so the child and his siblings (future presidents) learn about accountability. Impeachment is horribly UNDERUSED, which is part of why there's so much corruption at the top. Politicians must learn to fear it. People think things are better because we improved the make-up of our law-making body, Congress. But Bush is BREAKING LAWS. So, it doesn't matter how many laws Congress passes if they don't serve their OVERSIGHT duties as well by impeaching. They swore to defend the Constitution. What are laws without enforcement?

Besides, considering Bush's track-record of breaking laws, he can still do a lot of damage. Our troops, Iran, and our Supreme Court are all endangered so long as he remains in office. Waiting until Bush is out of office will leave us complicit in any further crimes he commits. The Union of Concerned Scientists has estimated that the death toll from a "tactical" nuclear weapon of the kind Bush is contemplating using in Iran would be at minimum 3 million men, women, and children. The path of death would stretch across country boundaries into India.

Perhaps worst of all, we set a terrible precedent by allowing Bush to stay in office after he's broken so many laws. Impeachment will stop future presidents from using Bush's actions as justification for even more lawbreaking and erosion of civil liberties.

• I'm a Democrat/
Republican. If we support impeachment it will lower the chances of my party winning in 2008.

So, your party would rather win elections than do what's right for the country? I hope you're wrong. I also hope the public is willing to throw additional support to any party that holds our elected officials accountable for their actions. This has been historically true with every single impeachment effort launched. And this impeachment effort would begin with majority support (unlike most past impeachments including Nixon).

• Impeachment will never happen. Congress members will block it.
Well, all we need is a majority of support in the House. And 2/3rds vote in the Senate to remove Bush from office will happen once the evidence gets aired on the floor of the House, and subsequently the national media outlets. The political pressure will become too great.

Today's impossibility is tomorrow's reality. Congress members will realize that tying their political future to Bush reduces their chances of getting elected. Remember, one way or another, Bush is gone by 2009— but members of Congress may retain their offices beyond that date. Bush's poll numbers are extremely low, and most Americans support impeachment. This is a bipartisan movement. This means that if we make the pressure unbearable for Members of Congress, they'll turn on him to keep their own seats (like they did with Nixon). It's already starting to happen. While many Members of Congress have behaved unethically in the last few years, it's important to understand that this is related to their warped view of what's in their self-interest. Let's wake them up to their true self-interest (impeaching the president), by showing them our support for impeachment.

And even if we only impeach, and the Senate fails to do their duty and remove him from office, it will only implicate the Senators who fail to do their sworn Constitutional duty.

• But Speaker of the House Pelosi said that Impeachment was "off the table."

Pelosi most likely said this to remove any appearance of conflict-of-interest that would arise if she were thrust into the presidency as a result of the coming impeachment. What we need to do is to pressure Pelosi not to interfere with impeachment maneuverings within her party. Sending her Do-It-Yourself impeachments legitimizes her when she joins the impeachment movement in the future.

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