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February 12, 2008

87-Year Old NH State Rep Will Not Eat, Willing to Die for Impeachment

Filed under: Impeachment Events, New Hampshire — Mikael @ 8:57 pm

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By Susan Serpa

I just got off the phone with Betty Hall. She is the 14-term State of N.H. representative who has introduced to the state house HR 24 to impeach Bush and Cheney. The public Hearing for the resolution is next Tuesday Feb. 19th (the day after President’s day).

She is joining the Code Pink fast.

She is 87 years old and refuses to eat again until Conyers begins impeachment proceedings. She told me “I’ve had a good life. I can’t think of any better way to end it.”

Now, before you think I am heartless by “encouraging” this act by announcing it, I know Betty. When she decides to do something, there is no changing her mind – she’s going to do it. She will not eat until impeachment proceedings begin in earnest. We owe it to her to make this worth her while. It’s time to pull out ALL the stops and get Conyer’s ass into gear! We cannot let this clear-headed, heroic woman sacrifice herself.

Call Conyers’ Office for Betty: 202-225-5126.

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32 Comments

  1. Wow, just wow this is amazing!

    Comment by Vijay — February 12, 2008 @ 11:17 pm

  2. Betty is a very brave person. I commend her for her courage and I hope the world pays attention to her sacrifice. Good luck Betty.

    Comment by Charles Grrr — February 12, 2008 @ 11:27 pm

  3. Good for her. Way to make a stand.

    Maybe this will finally get the word out when people are willing to kill themselves to get Bush out of office and investigated.

    Jesus Lopez Viejo
    LiberalsVSConservatives.com

    Comment by LiberalsVSConservativesDOTcom — February 12, 2008 @ 11:33 pm

  4. Wow, this might actually show the power of a non-violent protest. Ghandi would be proud.

    Comment by CPAinChicago — February 12, 2008 @ 11:33 pm

  5. This is a true American. This is a true patriot. May God Bless Betty Hall. She has more bravery in her pinkie finger than the entire Congress combined.

    Comment by Adam Zettler — February 12, 2008 @ 11:46 pm

  6. OK. I have a new hero! What a patriot!

    Comment by Kevin Burton — February 12, 2008 @ 11:53 pm

  7. This is awesome! She is 87 though, not quite the same as a 30-year-old pulling this stuff. I plan to donate my own body to drug experimentation at that age. It would be cool if we could organize suicide pacts with many senior citizens to achieve political justice all over the place.

    Comment by Drew — February 13, 2008 @ 1:33 am

  8. this is stupid.

    Comment by Mark — February 13, 2008 @ 3:04 am

  9. Drew has donated enough of his body to drugs, apparently, and should commence the suicide pacts with his own death, as an act of good faith.

    Let’s get this story to where the herd can chew it with their cud – Good Morning America, Entertainment Tonight, et.al.

    Comment by Choocher — February 13, 2008 @ 3:08 am

  10. @#6–I too have a new hero. What an absolutely dedicated woman whe is.

    Comment by flywheelgrinding — February 13, 2008 @ 4:03 am

  11. no one answers the phone!! not even an answering machine!

    Comment by seth — February 13, 2008 @ 6:56 am

  12. sorry, I want to see Bush & Cheney impeached too, but this is nuts. even if this woman sacrifices herself for this cause, it is unlikely to make a difference. hopefully she will find another way to try to accomplish her goals.

    Comment by Hep — February 13, 2008 @ 7:07 am

  13. Maybe I’m just cynical, but with the laws as they are now, Bush has the authority to label her a fasting terrorist. This would allow detaining her without recourse, move her to Gitmo, force food down, and call her unpatriotic at the same time.

    Kudos to you for standing for something. Most Americans will not care, unfortunately.

    Comment by Joe — February 13, 2008 @ 7:33 am

  14. Bush Derangement Syndrome, and Darwin Award in the same person.

    Comment by Lectrik — February 13, 2008 @ 8:42 am

  15. This makes me proud to be a member of the “Live Free or Die” state. I only wish Betty and I were actually related.

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    It is easy to take liberty for granted, when you have never had it taken from you. ~Dick Cheney

    They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin, Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759

    Liberty has never come from the government. Liberty has always come from the subjects of it. The history of liberty is a history of resistance. ~Woodrow Wilson

    Comment by James Hall — February 13, 2008 @ 8:43 am

  16. She’s an idiot. What a waste.

    Comment by Barbara — February 13, 2008 @ 8:52 am

  17. the truth of it is, no one is going to care this old woman is starving herself. congress would probably rather her die than start an impeachment process that will inadvertently end the war that so many of them have profited off.

    Comment by alex — February 13, 2008 @ 9:26 am

  18. if only more people would be a part of the revolution rather than calling this a waste, we could get somewhere.
    sure it might not cause impeachment, but it will touch some people.. it will bring more people to stop bush from trying to stay in office.
    if you think he is going easy, you’re wrong and ignorant.
    let him call a national disaster and he will stay in office for as long as he wants as per

    On June 22, 2006, the Congress modified the Insurrection Act as part of the 2007 Defense Appropriations Bill. Section 1076 of the new law changes Sec. 333 of the “Insurrection Act,” and widens the President’s ability to deploy troops within the United States to enforce the laws. Under this act, the President may also deploy troops as a police force during a natural disaster, epidemic, serious public health emergency, terrorist attack, or other condition, when the President determines that the authorities of the state are incapable of maintaining public order.

    in short, bush can stay in office if he declares a natural disaster and stay until it is over.

    Comment by rEVOLution — February 13, 2008 @ 9:39 am

  19. Interesting to note that the 30%ers posting on here would say the same thing about Patrick Henry in saying:

    “Give me liberty or give me death”.

    How deeply have they all been entranced by the NeoCon, Rovian spin machine to call a true patriot and hero such as Ms. Hall “an idiot”.

    Comment by Mikael — February 13, 2008 @ 9:39 am

  20. #7, I can see it’s made a real impression on you.

    That there are 87 year olds willing to take positive action while the 30 year olds are busy with WoW and SL says a lot. It says even more about how deep this sh*t is that none of our “duly-elected” national representatives have shown half the fortitude of this woman.

    Comment by Alfonso El Sabio — February 13, 2008 @ 10:01 am

  21. Stupid ho. someone shove a hamberger down her thoat.

    Comment by bushie — February 13, 2008 @ 10:45 am

  22. Re #21:

    “hamberger”

    Another troll logging in from the ’stupid states’.

    Comment by Mikael — February 13, 2008 @ 1:37 pm

  23. Impeach Bush? For what? He’ll be out in one year. Come on. If Conyers is behind it, it’s because he wants to be the dictator instead of Bush. He’s more anti-freedom than Bush. Tell Betty to stay alive, and vote for Ron Paul. The only wasted vote is one in which we don’t believe. He’s the only candidate who will end the war.Mary

    Comment by mary — February 13, 2008 @ 2:07 pm

  24. a real patriot,now lets see if those dems.grow a spine

    Comment by Jerome X — February 13, 2008 @ 2:55 pm

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  26. This won’t make a difference. We need to be prepared to impeach the NEXT president. If there is one. Unless it’s Ron Paul, whoever makes it in next will carry the torch for Bush.

    Comment by Joe B — February 13, 2008 @ 5:07 pm

  27. We can only hope she dies of starvation soon, and removes from the populace a waste of matter.

    Comment by Z — February 13, 2008 @ 5:55 pm

  28. This is a horrible idea. Even if it is successful, we’ll just end up with Cheney. That might be worse, and that’s saying a lot.

    Comment by Nick — February 13, 2008 @ 9:49 pm

  29. Nick: Pay attention, did you even read the article? She wishes for them BOTH to be impeached.

    Comment by Jodin Morey — February 13, 2008 @ 9:57 pm

  30. Nick…

    Also…

    Every petition and movement is focused on Cheney’s impeachment. That is the only push going on right now.

    Comment by Mikael — February 13, 2008 @ 11:26 pm

  31. For those doubters out there… at least she’s doing her part. Doubting won’t cause change.

    For her? Godspeed, fare patriot of the land of the free!

    As a Canadian (I know, shocking!) Americans like her always aspire me to fight for the rights of our fellow human beings, especially in my country where it’s inching closer and closer to a police state. Wish Canadians were patriotic as she is!

    Comment by Mikail — February 14, 2008 @ 1:32 am

  32. So, when will we start the movement to impeach Obama? Personally we can rid this country of all career politicians by out vote. The problem is that people just don’t care.

    Comment by Jim_NH — January 15, 2010 @ 1:34 pm

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