ePluribus Media — Remove Cheney first, “since we really don’t want Cheney to be President. So remove him first, and then set your sights on Bush.” If Bush recommends a competent replacement for Cheney, so be it. Get the job into competent hands. If Bush offers yet another toady/Neocon, the Dems can bury the nomination in committee, proceed with Bush’s impeachment, then put Speaker Nancy Pelosi into the presidency after Bush’s conviction. (More)
Let’s answer Kucinich’s call with a petition that has it’s precedent in history, and it’s legitimacy in the Rules of the House of Representatives.
There’s a little known and rarely used clause of the “Jefferson Manual” in the rules for the House of Representatives which sets forth the various ways in which a Vice President or President can be impeached. Only the House Judiciary Committee puts together the Articles of Impeachment, but before that happens, someone has to initiate the process.
That’s where we come in. In addition to a House Resolution (635), or the State-by-State method, one of the ways to get impeachment going is for individual citizens like you and me to submit a memorial. ImpeachforPeace.org has created a new memorial based on one which was successful in impeaching a federal official in the past. You can find it on their website as a PDF.
You can initiate the impeachment process and simultaneously help Kucinich to follow through with the process. Do-It-Yourself by downloading the memorial, filling in the relevant information (your name, state, etc.), and sending it in. We’re not only having you send them to Dennis, but also several key members of the Judiciary who Rep. Keith Ellison informed us might be needing some encouragement. We’re also having you send it to Impeach for Peace. That way, we can collect them all in one place, and deliver them all simultaneously (with cameras rolling) in July. Be a part of history.
>>spying “on millions of innocent” Americans was done when their phone records included calls to the known AQ members.
The thing to note here is not that the executive was spying on Americans, there are laws and procedures to do just that, it was that the executive circumvented those procedures – the checks and balances you might have read about in civics class – because they feel they have a blank check to do whatever the hell they want in the name of this war.
The existing FISA which explicitly prohibits warrantless surveillance on US persons, the executive chose to do it anyway. Even those mild restrictions, which allow the executive to get a warrant ex post facto, they went ahead and ignored the law. Despite their party holding the white house and both houses of congress, the executive even went so far as to approach members of their own party in Congress, but were rebuffed – they chose to do it anyway.
Nixon was bush league compared to the willful flouting of the people and their law.
You’re welcome. And thank you for editing my typo. I mean to type “since when are pacifists and Puritans considered terrorists?” but my brain got caught between two different phrases.
Michael,
Thanks for taking so much time to bring a rational and reasonable response to the insanity that is “all things Bushie”…
I have been busy all day on other pressing matters leading up to the beginning of the impeachment of Dick Cheney, so it is great to see you covering this!
Hmm…sounds like the right-wing spin machine has been here.
1) Robb-Silberman Commission and Senate bipartisan panel both concluded that Bush didn’t lie about the intelligence on Iraq. (but we all know of course… facts mean nothing, only your assumptions and personal biases are to be trusted)
-Bipartisan? You mean, the panel dominated by Republicans sprinkled with the occasional tame Democrat like Lieberman? The one put out before the 2006 elections when our Legislative branch was acting purely as a rubberstamp for the actions of the Executive branch? But you LIKE that kind of behavior, don’t you?
2)spying “on millions of innocent” Americans was done when their phone records included calls to the known AQ members.
-If only we could be sure they restricted their search to such calls, but we can’t. The government has refused to do anything except “reassure” us that they’re operating within narrow search parameters. They won’t tell us how they’re searching, they won’t use legally established protocols for obtaining the information and they’re not restricting their search to people they know are communicating with known AQ members. I see that you trust your government not to abuse power without oversight, but the rest of us don’t.
3)”torture” of waterboarding was well documented and known to the senate since it has been around for a while. CIA agents who conduct the interoragion MUST undergo the experience of it themselves. But that apparently matters little to you. Being barked at by an american dog on a leash is more horrible then having one’s head cut off, being burned or cut into pieces alive… and all other wonderful things that your friends at CAIR call legitimate defence against infidels. If you claim it is contractors who violated the rules then investigate them. more power to you…
-Again, the rubberstamp of a meek, submissive Senate isn’t justification for torture. The MCA was the worst piece of legislation to come out of that Senate, and it’s got a lot of competition for the title. Torture is torture; arguing semantics doesn’t change it. As a patriotic American I am ashamed of my country for engaging in the very behavior we claim to denounce, and I am eager to have every person responsible for its use put on trial for war crimes, regardless of political rank.
4)ILLEGAL SPYING = spying on people who call AQ is illegal? wow…
-Again, if only we could be sure they were the only people being spied on. Except that we’re fairly certain they aren’t. Since when do [sic *are*] pacifists and Puritans considered terrorists?
5)GENEVA CONVENTION VIOLATIONS = geneva rules apply to foreign nation’s troops, not a bunch of rabid murderers with hateful ideology from multiple countries, who were CAPTURED DURING MILITARY OPERATIONS while FIGHTING AMERICAN TROOPS
-So, because we’ve officially declared war against an ideology, there’s no identifying badge for the enemy. If there’s no identifying badge, there’s no reason to treat the enemy with any integrity, compassion or mercy. The ends justifies the means, and we should abandon the moral high ground in the name of expediency. I bet you’re a good Christian, too.
6)ILLEGAL RELEASE OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION = are we talking about that chick who was declassified YEARS AGO by a Russian spy (she can not be considered CLASSIFIED AGENT after that, since foreign intel agencies knew about her already) and then later Armitage “leaked out”? Armitage was against the war and acted out on his own accord…
-If we’re discussing Valerie Plame, the REAL problem is that the White House orchestrated a political time bomb that backfired. Frankly, I’m not interested with the exception that the White House felt that it could justify illegal behavior in the name of political expediency. Of course you’re going to write it off because it didn’t have the damning impact on the political opposition intended for it. “Nothing to see here. Move along.”
You’re going to have to come up with some better rebuttals than that if you want to convince me there’s no justification to impeach the entire White House cabinet, particularly our Glorious Leader Dubya Bush.
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another dolt beating the same dead hoarse…
I am tired of reposting the answer to your lies
1) Robb-Silberman Commission and Senate bipartisan panel both concluded that Bush didn’t lie about the intelligence on Iraq. (but we all know of course… facts mean nothing, only your assumptions and personal biases are to be trusted)
2)spying “on millions of innocent” Americans was done when their phone records included calls to the known AQ members.
3)”torture” of waterboarding was well documented and known to the senate since it has been around for a while. CIA agents who conduct the interoragion MUST undergo the experience of it themselves. But that apparently matters little to you. Being barked at by an american dog on a leash is more horrible then having one’s head cut off, being burned or cut into pieces alive… and all other wonderful things that your friends at CAIR call legitimate defence against infidels. If you claim it is contractors who violated the rules then investigate them. more power to you…
4)ILLEGAL SPYING = spying on people who call AQ is illegal? wow…
5)GENEVA CONVENTION VIOLATIONS = geneva rules apply to foreign nation’s troops, not a bunch of rabid murderers with hateful ideology from multiple countries, who were CAPTURED DURING MILITARY OPERATIONS while FIGHTING AMERICAN TROOPS
6)ILLEGAL RELEASE OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION = are we talking about that chick who was declassified YEARS AGO by a Russian spy (she can not be considered CLASSIFIED AGENT after that, since foreign intel agencies knew about her already) and then later Armitage “leaked out”? Armitage was against the war and acted out on his own accord…